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Sadiq Khan, has he gone too far this time?

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GrannyGravy13 Mon 24-Jun-24 13:55:03

Sadiq Khan has banned black cabs in London from flying the England flag during the Euros’s

He sites causing a distraction

Funny that he doesn’t have a problem with all the cars flying Palestinian flags in support of Gaza?

Wyllow3 Tue 25-Jun-24 14:04:20

vegansrock

If a cab driver believes a” blind eye is turned” then s/he should report it. I’m in central London on a weekly basis and I have never noticed flags being flown from taxis. I’m in town tomorrow and will keep an eye out and take a note of the cabs number and report it. Will let you know how I get on.

Agree with no blind eyes in any directions!

HousePlantQueen Tue 25-Jun-24 13:42:31

I give up. Such ignorance and bigotry and complete inability to accept the truth when it is pointed out.

vegansrock Tue 25-Jun-24 13:38:23

If a cab driver believes a” blind eye is turned” then s/he should report it. I’m in central London on a weekly basis and I have never noticed flags being flown from taxis. I’m in town tomorrow and will keep an eye out and take a note of the cabs number and report it. Will let you know how I get on.

Siope Tue 25-Jun-24 13:36:42

LizzieDrip

Sorry Siope - my mistake🙈

The fact that the flag issue is determined by TfL, not the Mayor, makes the title of this thread, not only misleading, but totally incorrect.

We cross-posted, Lizzie, so please don’t think I was correcting you. My question was - and is - for GG13.

Although it’s a lovely day, and I’ve wasted more than enough time on this culture war rubbish, so am off out.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 13:33:54

Casdon

Yes, Boris Johnson became chair in 2008, and was in post when the decision was made about flags and stickers not being displayed. Enforcement is the issue here.

I totally get the enforcement issue.

My point and that of many many black cab drivers is that the proverbial blind eye is turned for some.

Casdon Tue 25-Jun-24 13:31:28

Yes, Boris Johnson became chair in 2008, and was in post when the decision was made about flags and stickers not being displayed. Enforcement is the issue here.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 25-Jun-24 13:17:57

The Mayor is chairman of TfL.

LizzieDrip Tue 25-Jun-24 13:03:09

Sorry Siope - my mistake🙈

The fact that the flag issue is determined by TfL, not the Mayor, makes the title of this thread, not only misleading, but totally incorrect.

vegansrock Tue 25-Jun-24 13:00:57

No apology - it’s not Sadiq Khans ruling - so why bash him? If a blind eye was turned to flags and one flew or broke off and caused an accident or injury to a cyclist or pedestrian then by all means criticise . Flags flown will be contracting regulations so the cab drivers could be reprimanded or even have their licences withdrawn. He has been elected a record 3 times, you can vote him out if you wish but until then keep the fake smears out.

Siope Tue 25-Jun-24 12:44:55

And what does that have to do with Sadiq Khan?

To repeat TfL’s own words:

“Decisions relating to the licensing and regulation of taxis and private hire vehicles in London are taken by TfL, not the Mayor”

LizzieDrip Tue 25-Jun-24 12:43:11

So, let me get this straight, GG you consider it OK for the Mayor of London to ‘turn a blind eye’ to a health & safety ruling?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 12:36:00

HousePlantQueen

GG13. Have you read enough facts to concede that you were wrong ?

I have read enough facts and seen with my own eyes that this rule is flouted repeatedly by minority groups, and see no reason why a blind eye at times of large sporting events cannot be utilised.

HousePlantQueen Tue 25-Jun-24 12:25:43

GG13. Have you read enough facts to concede that you were wrong ?

LizzieDrip Tue 25-Jun-24 11:48:35

The title of this thread is misleading

The flying of flags by London taxis was banned in 2012 by the then Mayor of London, Boris Johnson.

Siope Tue 25-Jun-24 11:04:25

Would you care to enlighten us with what you see as untruths

Your claim, in the title and text of your post that Sadiq Khan is responsible.

This confected and incorrect furore appears to date back to an anonymous tweet, archived here archive.ph/4uCGk on June 23, which said

“This obnoxious little turd has banned taxi's from flying the England flag while the Euro's are on.

'It will distract motorists'.

What a lying bastard.

Not bothered about Palestinian flags flying around London or protesters stopping traffic.”

No evidence for this was offered, but this was still seized upon by the right wing press (and the muckraking Farage) as ‘fact’.

TfL responded, on June 24th, by email to fact checking organisations and media outlets who bothered to check (my bold in this, not theirs)

Decisions relating to the licensing and regulation of taxis and private hire vehicles in London are taken by TfL, not the Mayor.

For the safety of all passengers and drivers, there are guidelines in place about what can be displayed in or on taxis and private hire vehicles in London. These are longstanding guidelines that have been around for decades.

Only official signs and stickers can be displayed. Any other signage, which includes flags, is not permitted due to safety concerns. Many other licensing authorities across the country take a similar approach.

The rules apply to all signage, including flags, and are not specific to the St George's Cross or any other national flags."

Anniebach Tue 25-Jun-24 10:12:21

With you GrannyGravy

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 10:10:59

HousePlantQueen

Still no acknowledgement that this thread is malicious and untrue. When I see how many on GN have gleefully repeated an untruth ...shame on you

I acknowledge I am in a minority.

I acknowledge that blind eye has happened in the past

I have seen Pride and Palestinian flags flown on black cabs

Would you care to enlighten us with what you see as untruths

Oh and I have no shame in starting this thread or my opinions.

HousePlantQueen Tue 25-Jun-24 09:58:07

Still no acknowledgement that this thread is malicious and untrue. When I see how many on GN have gleefully repeated an untruth ...shame on you

Casdon Tue 25-Jun-24 09:24:38

I don’t think there should be any blind eyes GrannyGravy. They are all providing a service, there is no need for them ever to advertise anything about the beliefs of the driver. It’s one thing that was put right under Boris Johnson’s reign in London.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 09:21:42

👍

GrannyGravy13 Tue 25-Jun-24 09:17:42

A blind eye can be turned for Pride, as it was for the Olympics, so why not the Euros?

Sport is big, especially in major U.K. Cities, a well secured flag is far less a danger than many other things on and around London streets. I m obviously in the minority on this, but hey ho there you go.

The licensed tuk tuks are bedecked with flags, feather boas and deafening music, along with erratic peddling/road behaviour?

vegansrock Tue 25-Jun-24 08:15:26

Freya5 Johnson not divisive! Give your head a wobble- he got the backs up of the police, the firefighters, anyone who wanted a non corrupt administration. Well done you.

Freya5 Tue 25-Jun-24 08:04:17

vegansrock

freya5 you’re forgetting the worse mayor - one B Johnson - well done you.

At least he wasn't divisive, still that what you like it seems. Well done you.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Jun-24 03:58:14

This is how ignorance and wilful unpleasantness gets spread.

You don’t have to look far under the surface to understand why.

HousePlantQueen Mon 24-Jun-24 20:50:34

This thread is a disgrace.