Keir starmer

Germanshepherdsmum

I didn’t report your post growstuff, but whoever did, thank you. It was uncalled for.

It doesn't bother me. I'm not going to be called a liar by you or anybody else and I'm not going to be interrogated about where I have lived. As it so happens, in the past I lived about a mile away from where the asylum seekers are; my former husband and son still live there; my former husband is a property developer and owns a number of properties nearby; I have friends who still live there and I have in total lived within a couple of miles for 40 years. How dare you claim I know no more than a tourist?

Yes, I understand this.

Zakouma66 i am not intending to defend myself, i know how I feel, I am entitled to feel worried about a large influx of young muslim men, i have a friend who is a teacher ie educated. She said women in this country will lose our freedoms. People are desperately worried and I do not understand why you cannot respect this.

He didn’t defend the case Jane. He acted for those who made the challenge to the law. I don’t know how you know that the case was allocated to him under the cab rank rule, but barristers can and do get around that.

Yes, lets actually see what they have said

just google Daily Mail Leslie Lilley Candidate Southend East and Rochford

In a Facebook account post in June 2020 he commented on the arrival of a small boat in Dover, saying:

I hope I'm near one of these scumbags one day. I won't run away, I'll slaughter them then have their family taken out

*Within weeks he posted again, railing against 'more scum' entering the UK.
I hope your family get robbed, beaten or attacked', he added, according to The Times*

Mr Lilley is one of 41 Reform candidates who are 'friends' on Facebook with the fascist leader Gary Raikes (pictured), a former organiser for the British National Party and who now heads the New British Union, modelled on Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists

Mr Lilley also suggested that razor wire should be carried by Border Force guards to tear the boats making the dangerous journey across the Channel

IN the same article:

And another candidate, Malcolm Sedgley, Reform candidate in Meriden and Solihull East

has likened the Royal Family to 'Nazis' and branded the late Queen a 'tax avoiding OAP on benefits

'Just because the Royal Family believe they have an almost divine right to rule because of their superior genetics, and that the plebs should swear allegiance to them and show deference at every opportunity, doesn't make them Nazis. Oh... hang on

BevSec

Absolutely agree GSM, it definitely affects house sales and safety issues, you are right that the culture is different to ours and in relation to white women. I spoke to someone involved with the illegal immigrants, he said they put their own comfort before women and children, and this from someone working with them.

What a load of nonsense.

" the culture"

Which culture? Persian culture? Arabic culture
Off the top of my head, 2 very different things.

As it is emerging on Channel 4 news

Emerging? It was obvious form the start.

Casdon

Chestnut

Casdon

Where did you hear that BevSec, on a Reform conspiracy website? Do post us your source so we can check out the veracity?

I read that too and it definitely wasn't on a Reform website, it was on MSM somewhere. Just wait until next week, the numbers will skyrocket. They know Starmer will welcome them with open arms. Like most people, I am for controlled immigration, but when Labour take charge there will be no control.

Do find it and post Chestnut. People need to provide sources.

It has been common knowledge for some time that Keir Starmer defended this case. As I said before the case was allocated to him under the cab rank rule. I don’t know why people are so outraged over him doing his previous job as a barister. Many outcomes of court cases are used as precedents for future cases, it happens all the time. As it is emerging on Channel 4 news many Reform candidates have extreme racist views and before anybody jumps on board the Reform train they should ask themself if they really want to support racism.

I think Flappergirl made some valid points, uncontrolled immigration will not stop. We have worrying times ahead of us.

I didn’t report your post growstuff, but whoever did, thank you. It was uncalled for.

As flappergirl says, no need to wait, BevSec. As I posted upthread, the current government have done no processing or taken any other measures against migrants for months

because they had planned to drop us into an election once it became clear Rwanda was never going to do the work.

At the same time, be aware there is a lot of scaremongering going on atm.

Reform is not an option as they cannot return boats to France (we've been into this) nor can they just load migrants into planes and drop them off (countries have to agree to landing)

Absolutely agree GSM, it definitely affects house sales and safety issues, you are right that the culture is different to ours and in relation to white women. I spoke to someone involved with the illegal immigrants, he said they put their own comfort before women and children, and this from someone working with them.

Perhaps growstuff you would explain what I don’t seem to be aware of.

BevSec

I have heard reports of boatloads waiting until Starmer gets elected before making the crossing 😱

They don't have to wait though do they Bev. The current government has done nothing about the issue except for a terrifyingly expensive scare tactic which amounts to populist sound bites and in any event relies on a reciprocal arrangement.

The fact is that uncontrolled immigration will not stop. No government of whatever persuasion has the means to do that and if they say they have, they are being untruthful. More efficient processing would help but it won't be a finite answer.

We are going to see in the coming decades many more people fleeing their countries due to destabilising wars (the West is far from innocent in that respect) and climate change.

Parts of the world will become increasingly uninhabitable. It's already started. This isn't going to go away.

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Thank you for that leaflet picture.

Conservatives at their negative worst.

Notice it doesnt actually say what the Conservative will actually do, it attempts to just pull down others.

Typical of the negative campaigning and very damaging, the politics of despair

"vote for us as the others are worse but we'll offer you no hope either."

Mollygo

That’s bad MayBee70.
Our local candidates’ leaflets don’t slag off the other parties, just claim that only they have a plan.
But all the leaflets are full of claims that I bet won’t happen.
Here’s an assortment.
“Will make personal care free for old people”
“Will provide 8K more doctors”
“Will stop the boats”
“Will build more affordable houses specifically for locals.”
“Will sort out the state of the roads”
“Will reduce National insurance”

Plus the fact that their parents were taxi drivers, or nurses, or bus drivers, or plumbers, or social workers (all working class or so they say).

Our leaflet..

I am fully aware of that.

Germanshepherdsmum

You may know it, as do thousands of tourists, but you don’t live there do you?

What have tourists got to do with it? Wethersfield isn't that touristy (unlike Finchingfield).

I'm sure you are aware that before the site was ear-marked for asylum seekers, the MoJ was actively seeking planning permission to build a new prison for 3400 male inmates on the site. There's a three year agreement for asylum seekers, but it's still possible it will be developed as a prison. If not, it will be developed for housing, as will many other enclaves nearby.

You may know it, as do thousands of tourists, but you don’t live there do you?

Germanshepherdsmum

‘The area’ is not the same as the neighbouring village growstuff.

I know the village too!! Very well!

‘The area’ is not the same as the neighbouring village growstuff.

Dickens

Greyisnotmycolour

Channel 4 News tonight. Reform, Andrew Parker,shows this outfit in its true colours. His solution ? "shoot them". To a paramedic "don't give them oxygen if you have them in the ambulance". And still people don't see that they are just Nazis in plain sight.

Apart from anything, he is asking people who work in our organisations, to become casual murderers. Asking law enforcers to shoot people, or paramedics to allow migrants to die by withholding treatment?

They should never be put in this position by politicians.

If Parker believes this is the answer - then let him carry out the dirty work himself, not make demands on others to do it for him. The man is a disgrace.

Can you imagine how this affects our standing on the world-stage? It's utter madness.

And one of the people he canvassed who said he would vote Reform was a paramedic.

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