Keir starmer

BevSec I do object to people who only give half a story. Perhaps you should inform your friend of the ‘cab rank rule’.

www.stpaulschambers.com/cab-rank-rule-for-barristers/

Report me as well Chesnut.

Chesnut those posters on GN who say they support Reform, and will vote for Reform, are thereby supporting the views of Reform candidates, one of which is quoted above.

Simple as that!

Chestnut

zakouma66

I think there are people on this site who share that view.

Its stomach turning.

What is stomach churning is for you to come out with a wild and unfounded accusation like that about unnamed 'people on this site' who you know nothing about. You actually think there are Grans here who want to slaughter migrants? That is truly sick. I'm not going to report it because I think that comment should stand as a testament to the way your mind works.

It’s me you need to report because I’m the one who said I think there are people on this forum who share his view. Imo anyone who says they are going to vote for Reform ( or others who are actively encouraging others to vote for them) are endorsing people like him.

Chestnut

zakouma66

I think there are people on this site who share that view.

Its stomach turning.

What is stomach churning is for you to come out with a wild and unfounded accusation like that about unnamed 'people on this site' who you know nothing about. You actually think there are Grans here who want to slaughter migrants? That is truly sick. I'm not going to report it because I think that comment should stand as a testament to the way your mind works.

As you wish.

I don't think you know me or my mind.

We have one poster in particular who likes to quote " numbers arriving"

To what purpose?

*The claimants Mr Starmer represented won the case as the judge ruled that the government couldn’t refuse support based on how soon after arrival an asylum claim was made. Asylum seekers received support from the government or local authorities for years before 2003."^ This from FULLFACT fullfact.org/online/keir-starmer-court-illegal-immigrants/ (longer quote from that in a separate post.)

People entering the country illegally get nothing, because they keep a very low profile and don't want to get thrown out. They don't ask for anything and wouldn't get it if they did.

Those who have applied for asylum are not illegal immigrants, and they are entitled to certain minimum benefits while waiting for their case for getting asylum is heard, which has to be within a limited time, and requires them to provide proof that they are in danger where they come from.

zakouma66

I think there are people on this site who share that view.

Its stomach turning.

What is stomach churning is for you to come out with a wild and unfounded accusation like that about unnamed 'people on this site' who you know nothing about. You actually think there are Grans here who want to slaughter migrants? That is truly sick. I'm not going to report it because I think that comment should stand as a testament to the way your mind works.

LizzieDrip

^I think there are people on this site who share that view. It’s stomach turning^

I agree zakoumma. Too ‘polite’ to say it out loud but scratch beneath the surface and wow…

I agree

MayBee70

The thoughts of yet another Reform candidate
‘A candidate standing for the right-wing political party Reform UK in the British general election next month said he would “slaughter” migrants who arrive in the country on small boats and “have their family taken out,” The Times newspaper reported on Wednesday.

It said Leslie Lilley, who is standing in the constituency of Southend East and Rochford, made the threats four years ago on the Facebook account he is now using to run his election campaign. In reaction to reports of a small boat arriving in Dover in June 2020 he said: “I hope I’m near one of these scumbags one day I won’t run away I’ll slaughter them then have their family taken out.”

During the same month, the 70-year-old also complained about “more scum entering the UK” and said: “I hope your family get robbed, beaten or attacked.”
Can’t help but feel that many Reform supporters share that view.

He’s in the Borough right next to me! Many of our “citizens” supporting him do share his views, it’s shocking and frightening.

Any one who would rather see Reform UK in power rather than Labour really does need their head (and their morals) examining.

That was in response to zakoumma’s post.

Germanshepherdsmum

Universities would fold with the fees paid by foreign students Casdon - or have to charge UK students much higher fees. Many universities have a lot of student accommodation and of course the students spend into the local economy.

I don’t know if you haven’t understood me Germanshepherdsmum Students and their dependents are included in the total migration figure, which in 2023 was 1.2 million, with 532,000 leaving -as some leave, the following years come. It’s not students and their dependents who account for an overall increase of 685,000, that is the net migration

I think there are people on this site who share that view. It’s stomach turning

I agree zakoumma. Too ‘polite’ to say it out loud but scratch beneath the surface and wow…

LizzieDrip

^So it’s in his DNA to care for others and not just himself. Is that really such a bad thing^

Sadly Maybe I think, for Conservatives it is a bad thing. Their proposed ‘welfare reforms’ are a prime example - demonising and causing financial harm to the most vulnerable in our society.

I, for one, don’t want a ‘tax break’ on my pension (which would amount to approx £29 per year BTW) that is funded on the backs of the sick, disabled and vulnerable.

Not in my name: not in my country!

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Universities would fold with the fees paid by foreign students Casdon - or have to charge UK students much higher fees. Many universities have a lot of student accommodation and of course the students spend into the local economy.

I think there are people on this site who share that view.

Its stomach turning.

The thoughts of yet another Reform candidate
‘A candidate standing for the right-wing political party Reform UK in the British general election next month said he would “slaughter” migrants who arrive in the country on small boats and “have their family taken out,” The Times newspaper reported on Wednesday.

It said Leslie Lilley, who is standing in the constituency of Southend East and Rochford, made the threats four years ago on the Facebook account he is now using to run his election campaign. In reaction to reports of a small boat arriving in Dover in June 2020 he said: “I hope I’m near one of these scumbags one day I won’t run away I’ll slaughter them then have their family taken out.”

During the same month, the 70-year-old also complained about “more scum entering the UK” and said: “I hope your family get robbed, beaten or attacked.”
Can’t help but feel that many Reform supporters share that view.

Well, by not allowing in students' dependents the tories have managed to stem the flow of student visas 😆

Universities are a bit peeved at losing some income, though...

So it’s in his DNA to care for others and not just himself. Is that really such a bad thing

Sadly Maybe I think, for Conservatives it is a bad thing. Their proposed ‘welfare reforms’ are a prime example - demonising and causing financial harm to the most vulnerable in our society.

I, for one, don’t want a ‘tax break’ on my pension (which would amount to approx £29 per year BTW) that is funded on the backs of the sick, disabled and vulnerable.

Not in my name: not in my country!

Germanshepherdsmum

They don’t all stay here Casdon. A large proportion are students.

It is net migration. Replacing students with the year before’s students who have gone home is not net migration.

Yet another Starmer post, with little or no substance and evidence!

Starmer has not been PM, at least wait and see, IF he becomes PM, before bashing all his policies.

We “bash” the last few story PMs because of the actions they’ve taken, not based on previous Tory govts, not based on what MIGHT happen IF they become PM!

The very wording of the social media post is of the most basic level and clearly gutter sniping. Is the OP a teenager perhaps? An inquisitive mind and the ability to research (by that I mean one click of the mouse) appear somewhat lacking. Especially given the slavish desire to share something before a informed opinion has been made.

I would say this in the defence of any MP or party by the way. Although I tend not to read obvious trash myself, I certainly wouldn't share it if I did.

Chestnut

Whatever, it is partly true and that's bad enough. I am absolutely dreading a Labour government because under Starmer immigration will go through the roof. At least the Tories are making some attempt to control it (albeit weak and feeble) but soon there will be no control.

You have zero evidence to support this and immigration of both types it’s at its highest for the last 24 years.

Germanshepherdsmum

Believe what you like Maizie. The point is that he was instrumental in achieving a change in the law which made it impossible for the government to refuse to support immigrants. He was a human rights lawyer and he is not going to get tough on immigration.

Judges do not change the law. Only Parliament can do that, as you well know. Judges interpret the law as set out by Parliament.

You are on an 'enemies of the people' trajectory here, I feel.

He argued against the law whitewavemark.

They don’t all stay here Casdon. A large proportion are students.