What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

MaizieD living where I do means that I am surrounded by medics - so average in the sense of commonplace. Five minutes from a large hospital with very few home grown staff apart from the ambulance service. All lovely kind people.
So with parents in the caring profession, I think any feelings of entitlement are most likely to have come from working with Goldman Sachs. And Goldman Sachs recruits from State schools too.

Thank you MissAdventure.

I copied and pasted that into a document, reformatted it, correcting any errors which had resulted from the auto-transcription after checking them against what Yusif said.

He spoke for 20 minutes so it's a long document, arguably too long to post here as a whole but if anyone would like it in document format and wants to send me an email address in a pm, I'm happy to send them a copy by email as I don't know if the pm facility would allow for a message of that length.

One option would be to post verbatim sections of the speech to discuss here.

Late yesterday, I did post something on the Nigel Farage You Tube channel, politely correcting the historical errors in what Zia Yusif said about the West Africa Squadron. These are errors have long been dispelled by academics including an Emeritus Professor of History as well as Full Fact. My post was quickly deleted by whoever is managing Farage's account. So much for free speech which, according to Yusif, is one of our "British values".

I'm Zia Yusuf. I'm a technology entrepreneur who sold my company last year and I just became one of the biggest donors to Reform UK. Let me tell you why I did it and why I'm here. I did it because I love Britain. I love my country. Britain is home to the warmest most welcoming people in the world. We would do well to ask why do so many wish to come here and make Britain their home? The answer is British values. These are the values of equality under the law; the presumption of innocence; freedom of religion; *freedom of speech*; love of family and love of country. These values have been exported across the world. They gave birth to the United States, to Canada, to Australia and many others. These values in a historical context are nothing short of a miracle. They can be subscribed to by those of all faiths and races and they are worth protecting.

I think the First Nations people of North America and Australia, might have something to say about his claim that British values gave birth to those countries in view of the oppression and slaughter they suffered at the hands of white settlors and the British military,

He says that presumption of innocence is also a British value, something not being carried out here by one Reform supporter as I have already been called a liar.

If you post facts you are deleted. If you post the truth you are called a liar. These are the values of Reform.

Training as a doctor - Luxury sone might say, not me though, I live on the other side of the penines

ronib

growstuff Yusaf’s parents have medical backgrounds - a doctor and a nurse. Pretty average occupations?

I don’t know how you worked out that going to Hampton school means anything at all.

'Average occupations'?

It all depends on where you stand in the class system, I suppose. And what sort of doctor... I wouldn't say there was anything average about being a doctor. Nurse, yes, doctor, no.

ronib

Is there any bank which doesn’t have links with the arms industry?
Yusaf sold a concierge company aimed at high value customers. A million miles away from the arms industry.

I think regardless of content of any political speech, Yusaf makes connections with an audience. Sunak and Starmer simply don’t have the same speaking ability.

It’s also interesting that Labour is repeating social class politics and Reform is not. I don’t know if politicians from migrant families have different experiences and outlooks to fully home bred working class candidates? Hence Labour and mixed attitudes to private schools and revisiting social class.

Re-visiting social class ?

Do you mean in the way we so often see it used to suggest Angela Rayner isn’t ’well Spoken ‘ or educated enough to be deputy leader of the Labour Party? She’s a ‘fully home bred working class candidate’

It's under the info about the video, usually, on my old phone.

Probably different on other devices, but it is available.

Nicenanny3

zakouma66

My mind, ( and I do have one) tells me Merion knows what she (?) is talking about.

Oh well that says a lot 😂

Ah I see, the old chesnut of being rude and a funny face.

growstuff

Wyllow3

I can't find a written transcript of it.

YouTube has a written transcript of it (Click "show transcript") It's done by AI, so not particularly accurate.

I can't find 'show transcript'.

I have been looking at the other far right parties in Europe alongside our home grown one, and there is one thing that they all have in common, which is that they all without exception have difficulties keeping a lid on the racists etc and presenting a respectable face to the voter.

Everyone of them from AfD to RN to Brothers of Italy and Reform are all having to try to control the racists, anti-semites and homophobes in their respective parties.

What this means for reform will come clear on Thursday, but I am sure that there is a definite ceiling above which Reform will simply not be able to climb, because the vast majority of people in the U.K. will not have the stomach for such behaviour and ideology.

So in practice this means that they may get a few seats on Thursday, but their ideological stance of racism, homophobia etc will never attract more than a small percentage of the population, and so they will never grow from a small base.

growstuff Yusaf’s parents have medical backgrounds - a doctor and a nurse. Pretty average occupations?

I don’t know how you worked out that going to Hampton school means anything at all.

Don’t waste 47 minutes of your time watching Farage giving out unmitigated bullshit would be my advice Vintagewhine. I have, and I can honestly say I’ve never come away from a political speech so unimpressed with an audience that can be taken in by him repeating the same old, same old rhetoric - no answers, no challenges, no substance.

zakouma66

My mind, ( and I do have one) tells me Merion knows what she (?) is talking about.

Oh well that says a lot 😂

Sorry, growstuff.
I must have still been laboriously writing that out as you posted it.

Chocolatelovinggran

Goodness, Nicenanny, I would look for more courtesy than accusing people of lying and telling them to " make your own mind up , if you have one".

Produce the transcript then if you can. Obviously people should make up their own minds but it seems on here they can't they just take another posters biased view and believe it. So yes I have doubts that some have a mind of their own. View the video and make up your own mind.

If anyone cares to, youtube itself has the speech and will show both subtitles on-screen, and also a transcript to read.

Wyllow3

I can't find a written transcript of it.

YouTube has a written transcript of it (Click "show transcript") It's done by AI, so not particularly accurate.

My mind, ( and I do have one) tells me Merion knows what she (?) is talking about.

Goodness, Nicenanny, I would look for more courtesy than accusing people of lying and telling them to " make your own mind up , if you have one".

ronib

Is there any bank which doesn’t have links with the arms industry?
Yusaf sold a concierge company aimed at high value customers. A million miles away from the arms industry.

I think regardless of content of any political speech, Yusaf makes connections with an audience. Sunak and Starmer simply don’t have the same speaking ability.

It’s also interesting that Labour is repeating social class politics and Reform is not. I don’t know if politicians from migrant families have different experiences and outlooks to fully home bred working class candidates? Hence Labour and mixed attitudes to private schools and revisiting social class.

Zia Yusuf went to the independent Hampton School, so presumably comes from a wealthy family. I don't know why people think that people don't look down on others, just because they have dark skin.

I think regardless of content of any political speech, Yusaf makes connections with an audience Regardless of content? Are you saying that you can be mesmerised into believing anything if the speaker is charismatic? That's dangerous.

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Nicenanny3

Vintagewhine

Farage and his ilk are very dangerous. They legitimise racism, make it acceptable and give people a common enemy. That's why he is likened to Hitler. He's no friend of the common man although he says he represents them, he's just using their disatisfaction for his own purposes. Great analysis of Z Y's speech tbh I couldn't be bothered to read anything put out by a supporter of Farage even though I know I should! I should think the history dept at his old school is shuddering with embarrassment or perhaps that's what they teach in private schools!

What a load of tosh, speaks of desperation mentioning Hitler. Why not listen to his speech and make your own mind up, if you have one.

Maybe you should do read up on some of the history surrounding Hitler's rise to power. It's not tosh when there are so many parallels.

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Is there any bank which doesn’t have links with the arms industry?
Yusaf sold a concierge company aimed at high value customers. A million miles away from the arms industry.

I think regardless of content of any political speech, Yusaf makes connections with an audience. Sunak and Starmer simply don’t have the same speaking ability.

It’s also interesting that Labour is repeating social class politics and Reform is not. I don’t know if politicians from migrant families have different experiences and outlooks to fully home bred working class candidates? Hence Labour and mixed attitudes to private schools and revisiting social class.