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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

silverlining48 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:33:32

Why indeed WWM. To think it amusing to suggest that immigrants on boats should be shot as target practice is appalling.
These people are facists why would anyone think they are people who are decent snd honourable suitable to run the country.

Sago Fri 28-Jun-24 10:43:47

James O’Brien who attended Ampleforth and LSE.
He is the most smug, arrogant,hypocritical and rude presenter I have ever listened to.
He just stirs up hatred.

Why is someone who is intelligent enough to accept that we cannot keep housing more and more immigrants considered a racist?

Why is someone who does not accept Stonewalls teachings and values to young children a homophobe?

Why is someone who is aware of the dreadful attacks and appalling treatment of women around the world by Muslims an Islamaphobe?

mae13 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:44:17

I'd suppose that people rather like David Tennant, who believes women should "shut up", would enlist with Farage's Fascists.
Mind you, I don't think Farage & Co. would tolerate Tennants wokeness for five minutes. He would be "dealt with" by a Farage administration.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:48:41

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 10:50:03

Of course there are extreme far right people like that, but they are homeless politically so they have to attach themselves to a right wing party. It's not Farage they are 'attracted to' but what other party can they join? Reform needs to kick them out asap. By the way I do not vote Reform but I do feel strongly that we need a right wing party for balance and these crazy people are damaging that balance.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:54:38

sago apparently there is a study from Germany that shows people who support the AfD- a similar political party to Reform tend to be less secure and more unhappy than average.

Reading you post I think that confirms it.

Are you willing to support a paramilitary police, or someone maintains a proper England no longer exists, etc.

What attracts you to a party of racists and bigots?

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:00:10

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

How interesting apparently at least 1 in 10 of the candidates have said the sort of things you witnessed on Ch4

So that would reduce the candidates by a considerable number.

But it doesn’t answer the question which is why does Farage attract these fascists in the first place?

Galaxy Fri 28-Jun-24 11:03:16

I would say the biggest sign of insecurity is insulting people who disagree with you.

keepingquiet Fri 28-Jun-24 11:03:59

I wish I knew, but my mum used to say 'think it, don't say it,' I think this came from the war.

Sometimes we let the mask slip- we all have prejudices and make judgements about others.

It comes from a place of fear.

MaizieD Fri 28-Jun-24 11:04:07

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

I doubt he would have expelled them if they hadn't been exposed. I don't think he's at all fussy about who supports him. They up his standing in the polls and pay into his company.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 11:06:33

Whitewavemark2

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Why would you not want a right wing party for balance?

Don't you find it very disappointing that these people are damaging that balance by their extreme far right rhetoric?

Or are you so insecure that you can't cope with a right wing party at all? Everything must be left wing or extreme left wing.

Cossy Fri 28-Jun-24 11:06:42

Sago

James O’Brien who attended Ampleforth and LSE.
He is the most smug, arrogant,hypocritical and rude presenter I have ever listened to.
He just stirs up hatred.

Why is someone who is intelligent enough to accept that we cannot keep housing more and more immigrants considered a racist?

Why is someone who does not accept Stonewalls teachings and values to young children a homophobe?

Why is someone who is aware of the dreadful attacks and appalling treatment of women around the world by Muslims an Islamaphobe?

None of those things make people any of those things!

Most decent people, and I include ALL GNs, are not racist, homophobic nor accept violence against women!

The issue is when one singles out one particular group or cohort of people and label them all negatively.

Most Muslims are peace loving, I’ve worked with many, both male and females, as both colleagues and claimants.

Primary schools do not “teach Stonewall policies” nor expresses Hetrosexuals as negative or somehow “bad”. They do, however, have to teach that families come in many forms, because in a typical class there will be families with two mummies or two daddies, or just one parent, or being brought up by grandparents or in foster care. It does “normalise” these relationships because they ARE normal.

We are all “intelligent” enough to recognise we need to control immigration of all types.

As you will be very aware, it’s extremism that many of us dislike and call out.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:07:57

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

I doubt he would have expelled them if they hadn't been exposed. I don't think he's at all fussy about who supports him. They up his standing in the polls and pay into his company.

Your post could and probably does apply to every political party both here in the U.K. and worldwide.

They never remove the whip, or remove them from the party until such time they are found doing something against the party lines

I am not a Reform U.K. supporter, but can see why so many disenfranchised people are drawn towards them.

Cossy Fri 28-Jun-24 11:08:35

Farage is not “right wing”, he and his candidates are far right. Actually, Farage is just playing at all of this, as he always does, he finds it all an amusement, if he became PM he’s run a country mile! He’s a complete joke!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:13:09

I have yet to see any evidence that he has expelled all those shown on Ch4.

Apparently Tice was getting rid of them at a brisk rate, but it completely stopped once Farage took over.

Galaxy Fri 28-Jun-24 11:13:51

You (general you) have made the term far right meaningless, nobody even hears it anymore. WW has just included the death penalty as fascism, I am utterly opposed to the death penalty but is America now considered fascist?

halfpint1 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:17:44

Personalities like Trump, Johnson and Farage like the limelight and know how to stay there, they are dangerous to the every day person.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:18:54

gg13 so saying what was said on Ch4 by Farage chief arranger of events - who has been with him since the UKIP days - is not against party lines!,

Blimey - and I have absolutely no doubt that these views have been held by thst individual since his ukip days, and he is completely relaxed about speaking his thoughts out loud.

Farage will be completely aware of this individuals racism and prejudices.

MaizieD Fri 28-Jun-24 11:22:58

GrannyGravy13

MaizieD

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 Nigel Farage has made a statement which was all over the news this morning stating that the people who were filmed making the racist and homophobic remarks were no longer welcome in Reform U.K.

I doubt he would have expelled them if they hadn't been exposed. I don't think he's at all fussy about who supports him. They up his standing in the polls and pay into his company.

Your post could and probably does apply to every political party both here in the U.K. and worldwide.

They never remove the whip, or remove them from the party until such time they are found doing something against the party lines

I am not a Reform U.K. supporter, but can see why so many disenfranchised people are drawn towards them.

I realise that this could apply to other political parties, the tories in recent years being a fine example.

But, this, if true, tells us a great deal about Farage's stance. Numbers are far more important to him than the quality of those who comprise those numbers.

Apparently Tice was getting rid of them at a brisk rate, but it completely stopped once Farage took over.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:28:04

Whitewavemark2

gg13 so saying what was said on Ch4 by Farage chief arranger of events - who has been with him since the UKIP days - is not against party lines!,

Blimey - and I have absolutely no doubt that these views have been held by thst individual since his ukip days, and he is completely relaxed about speaking his thoughts out loud.

Farage will be completely aware of this individuals racism and prejudices.

Where have I said that what was said by the Reform Canvasser was ok?

I think it was appalling, pleased he is no longer recognised as an ambassador/canvasser for reform.

Whether or not Nigel Farage either approves or disapproves in private is a mute point, but publicly he has disowned him and others of a similar vein.

JudyBloom Fri 28-Jun-24 11:28:14

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:35:41

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

So why does he attract so many bigots, racists etc?

No one seems to answer that question.

Ashcombe Fri 28-Jun-24 11:40:01

People need to be educated

Most of the support for Reform on the local Next Door social media site where I live reflects a distinct lack of education amongst the posters.

Although I recognise there are problems with some of our police I would hate to see our police force become a paramilitary organisation or for the army to use defenceless immigrants as target practice.

J52 Fri 28-Jun-24 11:40:41

JudyBloom
Have you facts and data to support your comment that NF speaks for this countries silent majority?
A genuine question, I’d like to know the numbers.