What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

Merion

zakouma66. Ian Gribbin's views on women are really frightening. Then there are the other tweets from a stream of Reform candidates calling women bints, bitches, sluts and hags plus the derogatory remarks about Jo Cox. It's an appalling catalogue of misogyny. If these are examples of British values, I'm glad not to share them.

As am I. It’s as mad as USA women voting for Trump!

JudyBloom

I find it truly shocking that some people have it in for Nigel Farage. He speaks for the silent majority in this country. He is not racist in any shape or form. He is the only one to tell the truth of what is really going on - the poisoning of our way of life, the indoctrination of our children, all the woke idealogy, killing our democracy and decency and he is the only one who has the guts to challenge it and put the British people first, whatever their creed or colour. It is an absolute disgrace that the establishment disparage him. He is not far right. People need to be educated. Well done Nigel !

It is a slippery slope into Nazism, when eloquent people like Farage make it all sound defensible and reasonable, and gentle folks listen.
A couple of facts:
About 1,200 medically qualified refugees are recorded on the British Medical Association’s database. It is estimated that it costs around £25,000 to support a refugee doctor to practise in the UK. Training a new doctor is estimated to cost between £200,000 and £250,000
41% of refugees across the world are children, so are likely to assimilate more easily int their new society
A European regulation allows countries in the EU to return an adult asylum applicant to the first European country they reached, but we do not do that.
People seeking asylum are NOT allowed to work - thus aggravating assertions of cost - not their fault, but they are being blamed
Only about 0.5% of the population are refugees, and only 3,000 folks in Calais - that is something like 3 people for each UK town - hardly the invasion that he is indicating. His publicity, however, makes people think there is.

Whitewavemark2

I don’t think people who vote reform are hoodwinked.

I think that they know exactly what they are voting for.

Just as they do in the USA and now France.

Well, frankly, that is much more of a worry!

Galaxy

Yes they are rejecting the left in many places, might be useful to think about why that might be, calling people stupid and nazis doesnt seem to have been the most successful strategy.

Certainly not in France!

Yes they are rejecting the left in many places, might be useful to think about why that might be, calling people stupid and nazis doesnt seem to have been the most successful strategy.

zakouma66. Ian Gribbin's views on women are really frightening. Then there are the other tweets from a stream of Reform candidates calling women bints, bitches, sluts and hags plus the derogatory remarks about Jo Cox. It's an appalling catalogue of misogyny. If these are examples of British values, I'm glad not to share them.

Cossy

zakouma66

“Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us.
“The cultural feminisation of the west is a disaster of epic proportions. We have elevated female characteristics – especially neuroticism, to the highest levels. Hysteria is now common place. The evidence from repeated psychologically testing is that women are appalling at taking criticism.
“Modern feminism belongs in the sewer of self hate from which it came: you say it yourself, you’re all jealous of the perceived freedoms of men.”
Ian Gribbin from Reform said this

Reform UK are like slightly bonkers, slightly scary, cult leaders!

What are “British Values”

Can someone please explain?

I would give it a go but whatever anybody says to you, you are convinced you are 100% correct so why waste my time.

On the list of British values

(from my sons's uni website)

includes

"Mutual respect & tolerance of different faiths and beliefs
Understanding that we all don’t share the same beliefs and values. Respecting those values, ideas and beliefs of others whilst not imposing our own onto them."

I don’t think people who vote reform are hoodwinked.

I think that they know exactly what they are voting for.

Just as they do in the USA and now France.

Win what?

By "the silent majority", what you really mean is "the very loud minority"

Koalama

Nicenanny3,
They think because we are voting reform, we are being hood winked 🤷, I, as an educated woman, say, what was kind of said at the rally today, when your doing well (reform party) they have to come at you some way. I rest my case. Let them carry on. They'll be betting on us next 😁

Yes Koalama I agree. Fingers crossed for polling day🤞 Perhaps the silent majority will see sense and come out and vote Reform.

Perhaps we should put a bet on Reform to win 👍

Galaxy

British values are
Democracy
Rule of Law
Individual Liberty
Mutual Respect and tolerance.
Taught in every early years setting.

That’s it.
GN could use some tolerance on the political threads by playing the ball not the man.
And on a footie note, at the mo England are winning 2-1 tho it’s not over yet.🫣⚽️

Nicenanny3,
They think because we are voting reform, we are being hood winked 🤷, I, as an educated woman, say, what was kind of said at the rally today, when your doing well (reform party) they have to come at you some way. I rest my case. Let them carry on. They'll be betting on us next 😁

Nigel Farage IS useful. When he makes statements, it encourages good people to think about what they are perhaps ignoring, and starting a debate about how fatuous or wrong headed his remarks are.
Germany started the slide in to Nazism, by remarks seeming to be reasonable, and by setting average folks against a specific group of people.

British values are
Democracy
Rule of Law
Individual Liberty
Mutual Respect and tolerance.
Taught in every early years setting.

J52

‘Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us‘

Actually, Aida Lovelace wrote the first computer programme in the world.
I do wish these extremists would get their facts right and present validated data.

Our Labour candidate is passionate about getting more girls studying computing. She says says it was Gove who stopped that happening when he was education Secretary.

I thought it was a troll when I saw the capitals. I don't like being "shouted" at.

But on reading it, it's a string of empty rhetoric that could have been said by anyone on the right - from the days of Empire. Anytime since the 1930's.

Don't worry Casdon. The Starmer woman/penis trope has been done to death. Under Reform only dicks will be allowed anyway ... and men who fly QAnon flags.

What is British passion? Asking for a friend.

‘Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us‘

Actually, Aida Lovelace wrote the first computer programme in the world.
I do wish these extremists would get their facts right and present validated data.

zakouma66

“Right now all men pay for all women: we pay 80% of tax and you take out 80%. The fact you’re able to write on a technological device is all down to us.
“The cultural feminisation of the west is a disaster of epic proportions. We have elevated female characteristics – especially neuroticism, to the highest levels. Hysteria is now common place. The evidence from repeated psychologically testing is that women are appalling at taking criticism.
“Modern feminism belongs in the sewer of self hate from which it came: you say it yourself, you’re all jealous of the perceived freedoms of men.”
Ian Gribbin from Reform said this

Reform UK are like slightly bonkers, slightly scary, cult leaders!

What are “British Values”

Can someone please explain?

Nicenanny3

A MAN WHO SPEAKS WITH BRITISH PASSION

ZIA YUSUF TODAY GAVE A SPEECH THAT ENCAPSULATED EVERYTHING THAT BRITAIN HOLDS DEAR, VALUES, HISTORY, CULTURE AND PRIDE. SPOKEN WITH PASSION AND A TONE THAT ECHOED BRITISH FORTITUDE. TODAY TRULY HIGHLIGHTED THE STRENGTH AND DETERMINATION OF REFORM UK THAT COULD NEVER BE MATCHED BY A WEAK TORY PARTY AND A COMPLETELY DELUDED LABOUR PARTY...REFORM UK IS THE PARTY OF BRITAIN.

WE THE PEOPLE OF BRITAIN ARE FED UP OF THE POLITICAL ELITE WHO WILL WATCH AS OUR COUNTRY AND IT'S PROUD VALUES ARE ERODED IN FRONT OF OUR EYES. OUR BRITAIN THAT HAS GIVEN THE WORLD SO MUCH FROM SCIENCE TO EXPLORATION OUR NATION HAS PAVED THE WAY FOR THE WORLD TO FLOURISH. OVER CENTURIES OUR SERVICE PERSONNEL HAVE FACED OPPRESSION TO PROTECT THOSE WHO COULD NOT DEFEND THEMSELVES.

NO MORE AGENDAS NO MORE DIVISION WE MUST VOTE REFORM UK JULY 4TH AND UNITE A BRITAIN THE OTHER PARTIES WILL TO THEIR BEST TO DESTROY. FED UP BRITS, FORGOTTEN VETERANS, STRUGGLING BRITISH FAMILIES LETS BRING PROSPERITY BACK TO THE UK.
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How utterly ironic! No more division?

Who on earth is this speaking please?

Sounds remarkably like a Tommy Robinson type!

Vote for whomsoever you please, it’s your right, all of our right, May that right please be preserved, however tenuous it might sometimes seem, look and feel, we are still a democracy.

I do not want to return to the era of the Empire thanks, where no one had any rights except white, middle class men and the elite. No thank you!

It’s sad to think intelligent women with much experience of life are being hoodwinked, but I’m afraid you are.

I rest my case.

18:48Casdon

Diddums

Primrose53

Casdon

Instead of lashing out at everybody whose view is different to yours Nicenanny3, why not articulate why you are voting Reform? More than two sentences of sound bites would be good, as I’ve not seen a thought through, detailed post from you yet?

That’s really unfair. nicenanny3 has not lashed out at anyone. I think she has made her case clearly and has been very polite even when Zakouma called her a “malicious racist.”

I think you are scraping the bottom of the barrel now. Her views might be the complete opposite of yours but you should respect her instead of behaving like a catty 15 year old.

But she did. Here are some examples.

‘Only in a bigoted person's eyes.’

‘15:13Merion

Who are you voting for Starmer who doesn't know what a woman is and thinks she/they may have penises 😱 takes all sorts I suppose 🤔’

‘ Perhaps you should watch before making such bigoted claims. He's Reforms biggest donor and he's a multi millionaire.’

That is just on the current page of this thread. It’s not behaving like a 15 year old to call out somebody for responses calling people who disagree with her bigots and making ner ner ner ner ner responses. What are responses like that if they aren’t lashing out?