What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

I think supporters of any party should always look closely at who is funding that party, especially when that party is a limited company. Farage mixes with pro Putin people, there's evidence that there is, once again, Russian interference in our election and also the French and US elections and false news sites being used to discredit people. Apparently Zelensky's wife bought a Bugatti Tourbillon for 4.5 million euros, total rubbish but spread widely by Alex Jones despite it being totally untrue. BTW Farage agreed with AJ about the Sandy Hook massacre and seems to think Tate is a pretty good guy. As I said he mixes with some very dubious people!

No problem, maddyone. I only read it because i felt obliged to read it, as half of my degree is in German. I can't say I'd recommend it. It's full of hate, blame (of others - mainly Jews, but also Marxists and social democrats) and being the victim of people who didn't recognise young Adolf's genius. "Mein Kampf" means "my struggle" and it gives details of Hitler's "struggle" against the elites.

Sorry Mein Kampf
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I’ve never read * win Kampf.* It has never appealed to me, for the obvious reasons.

Sorry growstuff, I misunderstood.

I guess they're part of an "alternative elite".

I did wonder how it was that Zia Yusuf seemed to appear from nowhere to be a major donor and poster boy for Reform, banging on about British values and hailing Farage as a messiah.

As foxeie48 says, he worked for Goldman Sachs - and is around the same age as Spajić. Yusuf’s business after that was providing a concierge service so that wealthy, powerful people could have everything they wanted at the touch of a few buttons on a phone app.

Yusuf and his partner (who wanted out) sold the business to Capital One - the bank which finances the Israeli weapons-maker Elbit Sytems who make the GPS tracker bombs used to target British medical aid workers in Gaza.

And now we’re reading about wealthy socialite and convicted criminal George Cottrell on the campaign trail with Farage.

What links these people is not that they are men of the people. Far from it. What links them is a desire for money and power and to be part of an elite class. And 5,000 people in Birmingham, many (most?) of them probably working class, clapped and cheered for them.

Sorry to mention this, but Hitler did the same in "Mein Kampf".

maddyone

I think 07/10/23 is an example of why Jewish people feel permanently persecuted. Then witness the terrible antisemitism that has risen it’s ugly head all over the world since then and you have your answer.

maddyone I wasn't referring to Jews. Of course I understand why they should feel persecuted. I meant Reform supporters and conspiracy theorists in general. There's a common theme running through so much of what they say, which is that there's somebody (Jews, Muslims, bankers, corporate organisations, global elites, big pharma, etc etc) out to get them. That's why Farage has always portrayed himself as a "man in the street" with his fag and pint.

I think 07/10/23 is an example of why Jewish people feel permanently persecuted. Then witness the terrible antisemitism that has risen it’s ugly head all over the world since then and you have your answer.

MaizieD

maddyone

I don’t know how people become like that, but I’d like to know how the Jews apparently run the banks. Or what the Covid vaccine had to do with the Holocaust.

The 'Jews run the banks' is historic because a number of Jews were merchants and bankers because there was very little else available for them to do. They were barred from many professions because they were Jews. Having said that, don't think that it was solely Jews who tended to dominate banking. Many of our old established banks were founded by Quaker families, because they were barred from other professions, too.

I think the Holocaust thing is because the extreme antivaxxers regard the vaccination programme as planned genocide...

But what is it that turns them into perpetual victims? They always think that somebody is out to get them. I guess I can see their appeal to people who are genuinely downtrodden. They seem to see these "victims" as their champions.

Farage mixes with some very strange/dubious people. There's an article about his relationship with George Cottrell in the Guardian and his links to Montenegro's Prime Minister Milojko Spajić. Spajić worked for Goldman Sachs same as Zia Yusef, just a coincidence? Farage once said he could earn as much as a Goldman Sachs banker as an MEP, now he seems to have them as close friends and allies.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/04/farage-expenses-1999-everyones-winner-europe

maddyone

I don’t know how people become like that, but I’d like to know how the Jews apparently run the banks. Or what the Covid vaccine had to do with the Holocaust.

The 'Jews run the banks' is historic because a number of Jews were merchants and bankers because there was very little else available for them to do. They were barred from many professions because they were Jews. Having said that, don't think that it was solely Jews who tended to dominate banking. Many of our old established banks were founded by Quaker families, because they were barred from other professions, too.

I think the Holocaust thing is because the extreme antivaxxers regard the vaccination programme as planned genocide...

I don’t know how people become like that, but I’d like to know how the Jews apparently run the banks. Or what the Covid vaccine had to do with the Holocaust.

Iam64

Of course it wasn’t a ch4 set up, good to see this investigation concluded quickly. Farage and co present themselves as victims. One of their candidates has today been exposed as claiming the Jews run the banks. It’s nit difficult to see why Some People are attracted to Reform

Is this the loonytune who compared the Covid vaccine to the Holocaust? What is it about conspiracy theorists? Maybe some psychoanalyst could explain how they get like that.

Of course it wasn’t a ch4 set up, good to see this investigation concluded quickly. Farage and co present themselves as victims. One of their candidates has today been exposed as claiming the Jews run the banks. It’s nit difficult to see why Some People are attracted to Reform

MayBee70

His followers won’t believe that though, will they. It’s like a cult imo.

Of course not. Ofcom is a tool of the elite establishment. It was bound to find in their favour.

His followers won’t believe that though, will they. It’s like a cult imo.

Siope remarkable isn’t it?

I see Ofcom have said the Channel 4 documentary showing the racism, homophobia etc etc inside Reform was not a set-up

www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-standards/update-complaints-channel-4-news-undercover-reform/

Biscuitmuncher

Doodledog yes, because he wasn't here illegally, he was with his family and was needed

But asylum seekers aren't here illegally!! In any case, he still used up accommodation, health services, etc, whatever his legal status. This is a bit of a silly argument.

Doodledog yes, because he wasn't here illegally, he was with his family and was needed

PS. I think you're underestimating how wealthy and educated middle-class Sudanese are. I doubt many of them are so-called "economic" migrants, but their lives certainly are in danger. My daughter's father-in-law is from Sudan and still has family there. My son-in-law's cousin was attacked last year and suffered life-changing injuries.

Not only that, but historically Sudan had links with the UK, which is why there's a small Sudanese community in the UK. Not only that, but there's a civil war in Sudan and lives really are in danger. Eritrea is at permanent war and all male Eritreans are conscripted until they're middle-aged. Many of them learn English at school and have family already in the UK.

Biscuitmuncher

Dickens my dad left Wales for England but didn't expect to be kept at someone else's expense

I am attempting to explain why someone from Eritrea or Sudan for example who survives on less than £1 per day, where there is little work, where crops regularly fail, where drinking water is contaminated, where childbirth is fraught with danger to the woman, where... well you get the picture...

... might decide, given the opportunity, to say sod this for a game of soldiers and - if he can beg, borrow or steal the money, traverse the terrain and eventually hop on a boat to the UK having realised and been persuaded probably by his family that he will have no future otherwise and that he'll get a job ultimately here in Britain.

Look, I'm not recommending it, I'm not even condoning it, I'm just explaining why I don't think Amanuel or Mesfin sits on a plateau watching the sun go down and thinking, yeah, but this isn't fair on the taxpayers in the UK, though.

Desperate people do desperate things without carefully cogitating all the rights and wrongs and possibilities of such a journey... they just see an impoverished future stretching out endlessly before them, and a means to an end.