What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

Labour have removed their candidate from Clacton 👍

Callistemon213

^We have a different Labour candidate this time so the result will be interesting. She does seem keen and impressive but I have read that she is already on the CC for a ward here and has never been seen since the day of the CC elections^ 🤔

Re my previous post about our local Labour candidate.

The person who said that is a numpty mistaken. The reason she has never been seen in their ward since the day of the County Council elections is because she is a County Councillor for a different ward in a different town 😁

Too late anyway, I voted for her.

😂😂😂

We have a different Labour candidate this time so the result will be interesting. She does seem keen and impressive but I have read that she is already on the CC for a ward here and has never been seen since the day of the CC elections 🤔

Re my previous post about our local Labour candidate.

The person who said that is a numpty mistaken. The reason she has never been seen in their ward since the day of the County Council elections is because she is a County Councillor for a different ward in a different town 😁

Too late anyway, I voted for her.

Shinamae

Primrose53

NF on ITV just now being interviewed by Trevor Phillips.

Now on GB news been interviewed by Camilla….🤓

What?

The Camilla? Ie The Queen?

nightowl👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

nightowl

Goodness this thread is depressing. Division and hate continues to flourish even amongst grans who describe themselves as moderate, and on all sides of the debate. Brexit casts a very long shadow. While ever those who voted for it are dismissed as stupid, or even worse, far right and fascist, there will never be any reconciliation. I don’t think anything will change whichever party wins this election.

Agreed. It’s horrible. People seem to like to throw vile accusations around. Talk about holier than thou.

Siope

Have to love Led By Donkeys

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBoDiuN2WoY

Someone has made a version with the first verse of Right Said Fred as a soundtrack which is great, but I can’t link to that.

Brilliant. Thanks for that.

Shinamae

Primrose53

NF on ITV just now being interviewed by Trevor Phillips.

Now on GB news been interviewed by Camilla….🤓

Interesting article in The Sunday Times alleging Russian involvement in promoting Reform on social media.

www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/deputy-pms-grave-concerns-that-russians-are-boosting-nigel-farages-reform-p785jhmg6

Goodness this thread is depressing. Division and hate continues to flourish even amongst grans who describe themselves as moderate, and on all sides of the debate. Brexit casts a very long shadow. While ever those who voted for it are dismissed as stupid, or even worse, far right and fascist, there will never be any reconciliation. I don’t think anything will change whichever party wins this election.

Primrose53

NF on ITV just now being interviewed by Trevor Phillips.

Now on GB news been interviewed by Camilla….🤓

Iam64

No one is suggesting miracles. The pro labour/libdem/green etc posters here are all expressing genuine concern about how the next government can begin the process of re-building our country

As long as Greens and Lib Dems aren’t an actual part of the new government!
Am hoping Labour get in comfortably as predicted and have no need of any propping up with a coalition.

Iam64

That’s a salutary tale Callistemon. The Corbyn era caused rifts in many Labour constituencies, including my own. During the debates about which leadership candidate we should support, the `Corbyn activists were routing for Rebecca Long Bailey. Starmer won the vote by 3. I’d rousted myself to go along with mr I who had more stamina for the fight than I did. Our neighbour joined us. It’s pretty clear, we 3 ‘moderates’ influenced the result.

Well done you😃

Callistemon213

^We had our peculiar far right moment which brought about Brexit and division and hate.^

It wasn't just people on the right who voted for Brexit. Labour Leave was a campaign group, for instance.
Tony Blair first mooted a referendum but did not proceed with it. I think Cameron assumed (wrongly) that the result would be a firm vote to stay and was as shocked as many of us at the result. Even Farage seemed shocked and surprised (but elated).

So no, it wouldn't be right to blame the so-called far right.

Yes, it has left divisions and caused damage in so many ways.

It wouldn’t be right at all, tbh am sick to death of all the blaming still going on, only on forums tho am happy to say.

As a limited company he’s charging people a £5 entry fee.

I mean Sky News.

He is expecting 5,000 at a rally in Birmingham today. His main speaker is a Muslim. Trevor Phillips says he has known him 20 years and he says he is not a racist.

Trevor is asking some very tricky questions but NF is doing very well in answering them.

NF on ITV just now being interviewed by Trevor Phillips.

We have had Labour MPs here previously, it is not a predictably Tory constituency. I have a feeling Labour will win here this time, especially as the boundaries have changed.

That’s a salutary tale Callistemon. The Corbyn era caused rifts in many Labour constituencies, including my own. During the debates about which leadership candidate we should support, the `Corbyn activists were routing for Rebecca Long Bailey. Starmer won the vote by 3. I’d rousted myself to go along with mr I who had more stamina for the fight than I did. Our neighbour joined us. It’s pretty clear, we 3 ‘moderates’ influenced the result.

Sorry, County Council

CC ?

We do Centre right/left pretty well but get into a pickle moving from the centre.

That's why we ended up with another Tory government in 2019 because of extremist Corbyn.
I went to the hustings before that election and the Labour candidate (who did not know our constituency which voted Remain, and knew nothing about this area) had brought hecklers with her from out of the area who continually disrupted, shouted, stamped their feet when any other candidate, particularly the Tory, tried to speak . The chairman did threaten them with eviction. But they were a badly-behaved rabble.
I spoke to her afterwards as well, she was probably further left than Corbyn.

We have a different Labour candidate this time so the result will be interesting. She does seem keen and impressive but I have read that she is already on the CC for a ward here and has never been seen since the day of the CC elections 🤔

We shouldn’t forget the lies told by the Leave campaign. All that money we’d been sending to Europe being ring fenced for our nhs being a prime example.
Some leave voters actually believed Leave would reduce / stop the number of immigrants from former colonies especially Pakistan and India. That was evident in my area, with ‘some people’ totally unaware of why we have a community from those countries.
What’s done is done. Here’s hoping we can re-build constructive relationships with our nearest neighbours - and educate people !

Callistemon213

^We had our peculiar far right moment which brought about Brexit and division and hate.^

It wasn't just people on the right who voted for Brexit. Labour Leave was a campaign group, for instance.
Tony Blair first mooted a referendum but did not proceed with it. I think Cameron assumed (wrongly) that the result would be a firm vote to stay and was as shocked as many of us at the result. Even Farage seemed shocked and surprised (but elated).

So no, it wouldn't be right to blame the so-called far right.

Yes, it has left divisions and caused damage in so many ways.

I caveated far right with peculiar that was the clue.

But I think that there is no doubt that it was driven almost entirely by the populist right and that is pretty extreme if you look at the UKs history, because as I said we don’t do extreme.

We do Centre right/left pretty well but get into a pickle moving from the centre.

ism64

Yes! I would love for that to happen.

Bring back cooperation, bring back community, bring back humanity.

I know I’m an idealist but I’m also an optimist - have been all my life. Won’t change at nearly 80😄