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What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 10:25:05

I’ve pinched this question from James O’Brian. And to me it is obvious, - they are fascists - talking about replacing the police with paramilitaries and bringing back the death penalty as well as shoot f….g immigrants has huge echoes of 1930s Germany.

So why would you vote for him?

Iam64 Fri 28-Jun-24 18:43:19

The issue isn’t only whether as Farage alleges, Andrew Parker was a paid actor with the aim of discrediting Reform. Farage says he met Parker for the first time on Saturday, instantly recognised him as acting/playing a part. Why wasn’t he challenged
On the campaign bus, it seems no one challenged his racist comments about the Prime Minister
No one challenged the other cancesser who described caprice flag on a police car as degenerate and suggested members of the LGBT community were paedophiles.
I can absolutely guarantee if anyone had made comments like that min my local Labour campaign, they’d have been challenged and not allowed to be part of the election campaign

I’m another hoping the tories keep the seat

I’m disgusted at the racial slur against `Sunak. It doesn’t escape me these people calling him a P… have no understanding of Britain’s colonial history, or the fact Sunak is a Hindu of Indian heritage

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 28-Jun-24 18:38:27

Sorry , Oreo : mea culpa!

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 18:35:48

Chestnut

Maybe the NHS is on its knees because we have over 5 million more people in the UK than when the Tories came in.

5 million more people to increase the country's productivity and pay taxes.

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 18:32:47

Maybe the NHS is on its knees because we have over 5 million more people in the UK than when the Tories came in.

MaizieD Fri 28-Jun-24 18:30:44

It was a terrific publicity stunt though, wasn't it?

Stitch up Ch4, eh?

MaizieD Fri 28-Jun-24 18:27:23

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

If you look closely at the CV GG13posted you will see that the last work he speaks of doing is 4 years ago. A part time actor, perhaps?

It appears that Mr Parker is denying the 'stitch up

However when GB News got in touch with Andrew Parker he dismissed such theories and said that while he was goaded by the undercover reporter, he rejected any suggestion that he was a ‘paid actor’ set-up to make Reform look bad.

www.spectator.co.uk/article/channel-4-hit-back-at-reform-over-actor-activist-claims/

I posted Ch4's statement earlier.

M0nica Fri 28-Jun-24 17:55:23

Since we are to reduce immigration, most of which is legal and is people coming in to fill jobs we do not have locally domiciled people to fill.

Could those who oppose this immigration please explain how the NHS, all ready on its knees, the care sector will continue to care for the sick elderly and ill without them A high number of immigrants also work in the IT industry, transport and hospitality sectors.

Those opposing immigration would,ubdubtedly find it helpful to read the recent Migration Observatory report on immigration migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-labour-market-an-overview/

The Migration Observatory, based at Oxford University is considered to provide 'independent, impartial and authorative advice, eveidence based reports on migration in the UK'

Perhaps those who oppose migration could read it. The language is accessable and the graphs and diagrams easy to read. Then they could, as I said explain how we would manage without all these migrants in key sectors to our well being like health and social care.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:35:01

growstuff

I'm not sure which law was broken. Being a racist and calling people racist names isn't against the law, unless it falls into a few categories. Nevertheless, not breaking the law doesn't mean that something is morally right and clearly this wasn't.

Incitement?

Kandinsky Fri 28-Jun-24 17:33:11

Parts of Europe are very far right politically, the parties doing very well too. Better than they’d ever do here.
Who’s voting for them?

Chestnut Fri 28-Jun-24 17:32:12

growstuff

Chestnut

Whitewavemark2

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

As I said, limpets attaching themselves to a ship. They are homeless and can't vote for any of the others because they are all left wing.

Eh? Are the Conservatives really left-wing?

Too left wing for them I imagine. Reform are the most right of the main parties so that's the best they can do. 😬

On the other side of the coin the far left tried attaching themselves to Labour a while back. It's what these people do.

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 17:30:58

I'm not sure which law was broken. Being a racist and calling people racist names isn't against the law, unless it falls into a few categories. Nevertheless, not breaking the law doesn't mean that something is morally right and clearly this wasn't.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:30:39

Whitewavemark2

It certainly doesn’t sit right with me but I suspect for very different reasons.

The police are investigating and I very much hope that they can prove that the law was indeed broken.

Suspect away.

What he said was wrong on every level.

It’s down to the law of the land now.

MayBee70 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:30:31

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

And how do you explain Farage’s organiser and his foul comments, was he an actor as well?

And that was in their party HQ wasn’t it so, if he’d been a plant everyone would have known.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:27:39

It certainly doesn’t sit right with me but I suspect for very different reasons.

The police are investigating and I very much hope that they can prove that the law was indeed broken.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:25:08

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

It's not even true! Sunak was born in the UK and his parents were born in East Africa. Their ancestors would have been born in India before Pakistan even existed.

So Mr Parker is an ignorant racist.

Definitely.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:23:58

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

And how do you explain Farage’s organiser and his foul comments, was he an actor as well?

I am not trying to explain anything Whitewavemark2

You know I am not a Reform supporter, there is just something about this incident that to me doesn’t sit right

Which is why I am pleased that the Police are investigating.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:20:07

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

And how do you explain Farage’s organiser and his foul comments, was he an actor as well?

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 17:20:05

GrannyGravy13

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

It's not even true! Sunak was born in the UK and his parents were born in East Africa. Their ancestors would have been born in India before Pakistan even existed.

So Mr Parker is an ignorant racist.

Oreo Fri 28-Jun-24 17:19:36

Chocolatelovinggran

So, Nicenanny, Primrose, Oreo et al, are you happy to hear our Prime Minister referred to as a fxxxxxx pxxx?
Do you feel that this Reform supporter speaks for you? Speaks for the " silent minority "?
Does my disgust at people suggesting young members of the forces should use boats full of people as target practice make me ""woke" or a " pearl clutcher"?

Eh?
Why are you including me ? I’m a Labour supporter not a Reform supporter.hmm

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:18:23

growstuff

I have never wanted a Conservative to win before, but I truly hope the Conservative hangs on to Clacton.

🤣🤣🤣

growstuff Fri 28-Jun-24 17:15:21

I have never wanted a Conservative to win before, but I truly hope the Conservative hangs on to Clacton.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 28-Jun-24 17:13:18

Andrew Parker has appeared in Channel 4 TV shows.

On his CV his speciality is stated as secret filming

I am pleased that the Police are investigating this incident, what he said about our PM was racist and disgusting.

petra Fri 28-Jun-24 17:12:39

MayBee70

Whitewavemark2

The far right - Tommy Robinson and a lot of others of his ilk are supporting Reform.

He’s been arrested in Canada….how ashamed I am that he’s from my country.

Why would you feel ashamed?
As Eleanor Roosevelt said: no one can make you feel inferior without your consent

westendgirl Fri 28-Jun-24 17:10:18

I still fail to see how anyone could want to be associated with Reform, which is I believe a limited company and not a political party .Well we can see what sort of people are attracted to it .

Casdon Fri 28-Jun-24 17:02:44

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

GrannyGravy13

Allegedly Andrew Parker is an actor.

Is this a stitch up ?

But he didn't deny what he said and claimed he used the words he did because he's an "old git". He hasn't denied that he meant what he said. He's just sore that he was caught out.

I didn’t say he had denied anything.

I didn't claim you did, but I don't see that his being a part-time actor is relevant. He wasn't stitched up. He was caught out.

It looks like we will soon find out as the police are looking at it now. It’s so disrespectful to Rishi Sunak, it makes me cringe to think about it. Andrew Parker wasn’t the only canvasser making inflammatory remarks.
news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-speaks-of-hurt-and-anger-at-daughters-hearing-racial-slur-from-reform-activists-13160397