What is it that attracts racists, Islamaphobes, homophobes and general bigots to Nigel Farage?

tricia58

I disagree. Have you looked at what net zero will do to this country? Or just listened to MSM who are paid to push it. Do you know where the components for their wind turbines come from or their solar panels.

Do you deny climate change is happening?

Siope for a family with two Cambridge graduates, this video was very underwhelming and reminded me of playground banter. What was the point?

I disagree. Have you looked at what net zero will do to this country? Or just listened to MSM who are paid to push it. Do you know where the components for their wind turbines come from or their solar panels.

tricia58

Why would you repeat something James Obrien said? A Lefty trouble maker if there ever was one. He can't have a normal conversation without highly controversial comments designed to cause offence. We need Reform for our grandchildren's future, too many in the country means their chances are reduced, often due to positive discrimination, jobs, homes education and also Net Zero which will have a devastating effect because they are just hoping that the sun and the wind will solve everything which they never did and never will.

The last thing in the world we “need” for our grandchildren’s future is Reform!

tricia58

Why would you repeat something James Obrien said? A Lefty trouble maker if there ever was one. He can't have a normal conversation without highly controversial comments designed to cause offence. We need Reform for our grandchildren's future, too many in the country means their chances are reduced, often due to positive discrimination, jobs, homes education and also Net Zero which will have a devastating effect because they are just hoping that the sun and the wind will solve everything which they never did and never will.

Tricia -

Reform are against Net Zero climate policies they are climate change deniers - their clear policy is to take us out of Net Zero agreements on our climate's future.

Thank you for the Marsh family Siope
Great as ever. so wonderful in covid.

Oh no, snitchy snitchy? How come? For very politely asking for the initial question to be answered?

Years ago this country began collecting data in the form of census, this was to plan for the future generations, education, housing etc. Its not immigrants per se, its uncontrolled immigration that causes the problems.

I’ll just leave this here.

youtu.be/RhBYzNv4N_E?feature=shared

too many in the country means their chances are reduced

Like we're going to sink under the weight of thousands of immigrants?

zakouma66

Primrose53

Interesting that the thread has now disintegrated into the handful of people who hate Reform, hate Farage and hate anybody who doesn’t agree with them.

You few enjoy talking amongst yourselves. 😴😴😴😴

You are a funny lady aren't you?

Educate us and have a go at answering the original question please.

Nobody seems to have managed so far.

"Hate" is a very emotive word to bandy about.

I dislike Farage - intensely - but don't wish him any harm, which is usually the case when someone hates another.

But that said, what should we say, if we don't agree with what he stands for? Should we just shut-up? Not debate at all? Pretend that we think we agree with him?

This is News & Politics, it's inevitable that posters will champion one party or another.

If the discussion isn't going the way you like it - why not put your oar in and tell us why you think the OP is wrong in her assumption?

Primrose, I think that you will find that it was a Farage supporter who called posters liars and told them to " make your own mind up, if you have one"

Why would you repeat something James Obrien said? A Lefty trouble maker if there ever was one. He can't have a normal conversation without highly controversial comments designed to cause offence. We need Reform for our grandchildren's future, too many in the country means their chances are reduced, often due to positive discrimination, jobs, homes education and also Net Zero which will have a devastating effect because they are just hoping that the sun and the wind will solve everything which they never did and never will.

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Primrose53

Interesting that the thread has now disintegrated into the handful of people who hate Reform, hate Farage and hate anybody who doesn’t agree with them.

You few enjoy talking amongst yourselves. 😴😴😴😴

I think 'hate' is rather too strong a word to use, Primrose, but it fits in well with the Reform feeling that the whole world is out to get them...

Interesting that the thread has now disintegrated into the handful of people who hate Reform, hate Farage and hate anybody who doesn’t agree with them.

You few enjoy talking amongst yourselves. 😴😴😴😴

No I’m not surprised. Because I assume that 16 year olds can see that the country is in a mess politically and, without having a great knowledge of politics still see that it needs reform of some kind. Sadly they obviously don’t understand the sort of reforms Reform plan but, by the next election will have a greater understanding of it.

I have some doubts that the polling results will be anything like the real results, as all who are canvassing say there is a big difference on the doorstep.So when doing the GN sweepstake on Thursday think I’ll go with my own guess, tho am hoping to win as I really need that virtual holiday.😃

Chestnut

Just seen this which will be a surprise and disappointment for lefties.

Labour are trying to get votes for 16 year olds, but a polling of 16-17 year olds has just revealed that a quarter of them would vote Reform. So when Farage says he is attracting young voters it seems he is correct. Labour is their first choice but Reform is the choice of 25% of them. Unsurprisingly they are not keen on Tories.

The polling, by JL Partners, according to reports in some of the media, said that 23% of 16 and 17 year olds would vote Reform if they could vote on Thursday.

And that very nearly twice as many (39%) would vote Labour. 18% would vote Green, and 9% LibDem. I don’t think a 66% share of the vote for progressive parties is likely to worry any of us who lean that way.

Chestnut

Just seen this which will be a surprise and disappointment for lefties.

Labour are trying to get votes for 16 year olds, but a polling of 16-17 year olds has just revealed that a quarter of them would vote Reform. So when Farage says he is attracting young voters it seems he is correct. Labour is their first choice but Reform is the choice of 25% of them. Unsurprisingly they are not keen on Tories.

Just seen this which will be a surprise and disappointment for lefties.

It might well be a bit of both.

... but you do know that among those who dislike Farage there are a number who don't vote Labour and who would be a tad irritated at being called a leftie, especially those who intend to vote Conservative?

It's a bit like Brexit - pro-Leavers frequently assume that Remainers are all lefties. They're not.

Chestnut

MayBee70

Will you please stop referring to many of us so sneeringly as lefties. It’s getting a bit tiresome now and I’m afraid I don’t intend to listen to your pro Farage comments because of it.

What would you like to be called? I've never used the word 'leftie' before so maybe you are mixing me up with other people. I am just putting a few facts out there for people to consider as I like to get a balance.

Well, don’t lower yourself to their level then as I always make a point of listening to what you say and try to understand your point of view. Including the fact that you are genuinely scared of the thought of a Labour government, something that I don’t understand myself but want to understand why you feel that way as imo you have nothing to be worried about.

I prefer to be called by my name. Or you can shorten it , if its too onerous.

"Leftie" is so silly . Along with woke, snowflake and other daft names.

Just because I see right through Farage and his rabble rousing racism doesn't make me part of any tribe.

MayBee70

Will you please stop referring to many of us so sneeringly as lefties. It’s getting a bit tiresome now and I’m afraid I don’t intend to listen to your pro Farage comments because of it.

What would you like to be called? I've never used the word 'leftie' before so maybe you are mixing me up with other people. I am just putting a few facts out there for people to consider as I like to get a balance.

Will you please stop referring to many of us so sneeringly as lefties. It’s getting a bit tiresome now and I’m afraid I don’t intend to listen to your pro Farage comments because of it.

Just seen this which will be a surprise and disappointment for lefties.

Labour are trying to get votes for 16 year olds, but a polling of 16-17 year olds has just revealed that a quarter of them would vote Reform. So when Farage says he is attracting young voters it seems he is correct. Labour is their first choice but Reform is the choice of 25% of them. Unsurprisingly they are not keen on Tories.