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France Elections. I am an immigrant

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MaizieD Tue 02-Jul-24 14:16:32

Mamie

I think the real time to worry will be in three years time when Macron finishes his tenure has President. The RN are very unlikely to do anything much with a hung parliament, but Le Pen as President plus a far right government would be a nightmare.

I have seen comments to the effect that by the time it comes to the presidential elections, if the populists do win power now, they will have made such a mess of running the country (as have other populist governments in the EU, Italy, anyone?) that the French will reject them..

Of course, this could just be wishful thinking...

Joseann Tue 02-Jul-24 14:13:29

I think that the RN in France is far more dangerous than right wing movements elsewhere. I no longer reside in France, but I have noticed its insidious evolution, visit on visit I make. Looking on as an outsider, but with knowledge of French politics, I think these are scary times.

Babamaman Tue 02-Jul-24 13:49:19

I have two daughters who live in France : eldest lives in Ivry sur Seine, a very left wing multi cultural town and has still retained its left wing MP. The other lives in Soissons, it’s in the north east, between Compiegne & Reims (agricultural town) it’s always reflected the national mood and has just voted over 43% Marine le Pen!
Poor France, but reflects the mood of Europe in general

sodapop Tue 02-Jul-24 12:10:57

I agree Mamie fingers crossed it won't come to that.

Mamie Tue 02-Jul-24 11:38:26

I think the real time to worry will be in three years time when Macron finishes his tenure has President. The RN are very unlikely to do anything much with a hung parliament, but Le Pen as President plus a far right government would be a nightmare.

Witzend Tue 02-Jul-24 09:59:46

maddyone

^Both of them out of touch with how their country really feels^

I’m unsure that any politician understand how the ordinary people feel.

Hardly a new thing, though. Back in the mid 60s the mother of my French exchange girl (they lived in a non-smart suburb of Paris) was endlessly ranting about ‘les algeriens!’

maddyone Tue 02-Jul-24 09:50:03

Both of them out of touch with how their country really feels

I’m unsure that any politician understand how the ordinary people feel.

pascal30 Tue 02-Jul-24 09:33:37

well immigrants are already pushed to the absolute fringes of French life already in the Banlieues.. so I imagine if Le Pen gets elected they will be excluded completely.. it doesn't look good for French progressives..

Sarnia Tue 02-Jul-24 09:22:49

Macron's hasty response to his party's poor European election results remind me of David Cameron. He wanted to pull the rug out from under Nigel Farage so called a referendum where he fully expected Remain to win. Look how that turned out. Both of them out of touch with how their country really feels.

sodapop Tue 02-Jul-24 09:07:32

Our vet said the same thing mokryna they will return to Spain if RN get in.

mokryna Mon 01-Jul-24 23:38:34

I think two thirds of the country are stunned. It’s like a ‘brexit’.
I spoke to one of my DDs, who said she has felt sick since she heard the news and would want to move countries if it got worse in three years time.

Mamie Mon 01-Jul-24 16:25:16

I honestly don't know mokryna. I get the impression it was partly the correct decision and partly much too hasty. I feel sorry for Attal who I thought was doing well and was clearly against the election. I agree it would be worrying if Bardella becomes Prime Minister in terms of policy towards Ukraine (and lots of other things), but the President is still in charge of foreign affairs so I am not sure how much he could do. I suspect it will be such a hung parliament and that nothing much will happen in terms of legislation for three years and then on verra!

mokryna Mon 01-Jul-24 15:53:15

Do you think Macron is paving the way for the next president, keeping in mind he cannot stand a third period?

He knew how people were thinking, especially after the European elections, therefore, thought it would be better to go to the polls sooner rather than later, while he was still in charge and be able to have some control although limited.

Marie Le Pen thinks her party's 28-year-old leader will have a say over France’s armed forces and the president's powers would be reduced.