Labour in line to get the largest majority since 1832......

I am unsure how to do a link. It was on google newsfeeds. I will try to find the article.

zakhouma, yes there are different kinds of Christians.

BevSec

It is apparently by a senior Keir Starmer adviser.

Can you link, please?

It is apparently by a senior Keir Starmer adviser.

Germanshepherdsmum

I am a Christian and don’t approve of having children outside marriage. Is that a problem?

Don’t be so crass MayBee.

Well, GSM, you have brought yourself down to a new low with that comment .

Ah, an unsubstantiated rumour in GB news. No, BevSec, rest easy. It has been discussed historically many times by different parties. It is most certainly not on the cards.

A Christian judging an unmarried woman for having a baby ?

Same as those who ran homes for unmarried mothers , they were brought up with this hatred

(Was asking BevSec)

Where?

Guess there must be different kinds of Christians?

Just read there is a suggestion of means testing state pensions 😱

I and DH are Christian’s , we got married in church with four of our children present.

Beautiful and meaningful day.

Our child that was born after our marriage constantly berates us for not waiting until she was here.

I am a Christian and don’t approve of having children outside marriage. Is that a problem?

Don’t be so crass MayBee.

Oh GSM - " not having an illegitimate child"? Shame on you.

Germanshepherdsmum

My standards include not having an illegitimate child and speaking decently.

She has a disabled child. Do you look down on that, too?

then came Brexit, then came the Covid pandemic, then came the Ukraine war

Then came? They created the first one, lied about the second and the third is foreign policy.

That is not a matter of concern to me.

BigMamma - fourteen years(!) not long enough?

Dinahmo I am not hurt, just surprised!

Our son and his partner have a child

Our daughter has two children

Neither are married, illegitimate child/ren is a throw back to past years when it was used as an insult and slur to indicate a so called fallen women

kittylester

Is no one else worried about the implications?

I do not care what anyone says about the Conservatives, but not one political party has had to contend with what the Conservatives have had to contend with since coming into power 14 years ago. There was no money in the pot after labour so the Conservatives had to start from scratch, then came Brexit, then came the Covid pandemic, then came the Ukraine war it has been non stop and now they would have had the chance to try and straighten everything out, people vote for Labour.

The conservatives should have been given the chance to get Great Britain back on it's feet. Labour have got it easy, all the bad things that have happened these last few years are over so I hope to goodness they do not waste it and make a mess of it.

"Gob on a stick" Rayner is frequently known as, apparently.

On mumsnet, apparently, because if mumsnet say it, then it must be by people with high standards.

I'd never heard her called that anywhere except here.

Germanshepherdsmum

My standards include not having an illegitimate child and speaking decently.

Fair enough. Each to her own. I don't look down on 'illegitimate' children either, and wouldn't be so ill-mannered as to reference them on a board where numerous women could be hurt by such a crass remark if I did.

I used to have respect for you, GSM, but the past couple of weeks are eroding that. Your politics are up to you, as are everyone's and I don't hold them against people, but sheer unpleasantness is unnecessary and undignified. I thought you were better than that.

Oh that must include me Germanshepherdsmum we had four of our children out of wedlock, only our fifth is legitimate as you put it…

My standards include not having an illegitimate child and speaking decently.

Snobbery is not the same as 'standards'.

My standards include taking people as I find them and not mocking their accent or education.