What are Labour going to moan about if they win the election?

eazybee

The headline on the Mail or Express at the weekend said, Let Us Be Gracious In Defeat.

What a pity that Labour voters, having won the election, cannot do likewise in victory.

Wow!! Pot, kettle and black come to mind here 😂😂😂😂😂

Some people think that elections are usually lost by the incumbent party, rather than won by the opposition.

Mollygo

I wouldn’t deny that the Conservatives deserved a well earned rejection, but then I thought Labour deserved a well earned rejection last time.
If each outgoing party didn’t deserve a well earned rejection, they’d still be in power.

Then the new government always blames the previous one, putting responsibility for the problems they face on the actions of the previous government.
It happens, every time, no matter how justified or unjustified the blame is.

Very true😁 human nature?

Maybee "I can still remember that episode and have to admit that I found him very charming and funny. Albeit never dreaming that one day he would be PM." He was like that customer in the pub who keeps the whole room laughing all evening, but can't be counted on to get in a round of drinks accurately (or organise an outing to a brewery).

GrannyGravy13

Iam64

Elegran, I agree with you. I do wonder though whether Johnson’s admirers watched HIGNFY - a bit leftie for them

HIGNFY is awful/disrespectful to the Government of the day, their X account is already on Labour’s case.

Now I imagine those to the left will accuse it of being ^to right^

That's why it's so funny and right on target!!

Ian Hislop is brilliant.

Iam64

Elegran, I agree with you. I do wonder though whether Johnson’s admirers watched HIGNFY - a bit leftie for them

I can still remember that episode and have to admit that I found him very charming and funny. Albeit never dreaming that one day he would be PM.

Casdon

Must admit I’ve always found HIGNFY to be disrespectful to all politicians and other public figures, that’s the whole premise they work on. Ian Hislop is very insightful, I’ve got a lot of time for him - and when he lampoons the new government they would do well to listen.

HIGNFY were sneering at Johnson long before he decided to bedome a politician. They were familiar with his work history.

Haha I’m waiting for the honey moon to finish and let’s see them all moaning about the wizard of Oz ..
will make a change hearing them slag off their own party when they don’t deliver … especially when the strikes start piling up

Keep saying it flappergirl. I can’t believe anyone who has seen more than two elections where the government changes doesn’t acknowledge the blame game that goes on.

What a silly and reactionary post Primrose. Every government blames the previous one for its woes. Do you in all honesty believe it is the preserve of only one party? The recently departed Tory government were still blaming Labour, after 14 years in power no less. I'm not sure if you're trying to convince yourself or us but if the latter it's not working because we're better informed and too old for such nonsense.

The headline on the Mail or Express at the weekend said, Let Us Be Gracious In Defeat.

What a pity that Labour voters, having won the election, cannot do likewise in victory.

In find Hislop intelligent and insightful. Also entertaining

Must admit I’ve always found HIGNFY to be disrespectful to all politicians and other public figures, that’s the whole premise they work on. Ian Hislop is very insightful, I’ve got a lot of time for him - and when he lampoons the new government they would do well to listen.

Iam64

Elegran, I agree with you. I do wonder though whether Johnson’s admirers watched HIGNFY - a bit leftie for them

HIGNFY is awful/disrespectful to the Government of the day, their X account is already on Labour’s case.

Now I imagine those to the left will accuse it of being to right

Elegran, I agree with you. I do wonder though whether Johnson’s admirers watched HIGNFY - a bit leftie for them

A lot of people didn't pay attention to the very obvious low opinion that the HIGNFY cast had of Johnson. If they had done so, he might not have charmed so many into helping him reach the highest political position in the UK, where he was clearly out of his depth dealing with the rapid succession of problems.

I suppose this is an example of the Peter Principle ( "In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence." ) or perhaps just of the tendency of many people to be dazzled by charisma in a candidate, rather than impressed by quiet competence.

growstuff

I'm still waiting for anybody who voted Labour to have a good old moan.

Just a tiny, tiny moan. Now that the Tories have gone the comedians won't have so much to joke about. I can only of one right leaning comedian - Geoff Norcott. Even he in recent months has toned down his political leanings and joked about the Tories.

In some respects we have to blame the BBC for having Johnson on HIGNIFY. His first appearance on HIGNIFY was April 1988 when Angus Deayton was in the chair. He had 7 appearances, 4 of them as host. The last was in December 2006. I assume that there were no other appearances because he would have been campaigning to be the London Mayor.

If he had not been on HIGNIFY nobody apart from Torygraph readers would have heard of him.

I'm not moaning. There is plenty of bread in shops hereabouts and the wind is just ...well, doing what it does.

I'm still waiting for anybody who voted Labour to have a good old moan.

Casdon I think you’re right.
If they’ve learnt one lesson whilst in opposition, it’s that thanks to intentional or accidental leaks and the speed of the internet, no transgression is going to remain secret and any failure to immediately deal with such, will continue to be jumped on with alacrity.

Don’t we all hope though that any transgressions are immediately dealt with in future, regardless of who is in power? I don’t see Keir Starmer giving people the benefit of the doubt if something comes to light which is a reputational issue for the government. That will be the difference.

Pythagorus 👏👏👏

Look at the scandals of the last Labour government, which were some of the reasons we ended up with Conservatives last time.

One thing that will be very different when criticising the current government, is that is will have to be based solely on policy snd not the fact that they lack moral fibre or are corrupt or fraudulent.

So much of the criticism in recent years was because the government was a total moral vacuum

Now that is a brave comment! I have no doubt there will be oodles of such stuff coming out in the fullness of time. Politicians are all human with all the human frailties!

Luckygirl3
I find the whole premise of this thread very juvenile - it is like the politics of the playground.

This made me laugh! Politics always has been like a school playground! I can never listen to Prime Minister’s question time in Parliament. It’s just so awful.!

Iam64

Casdon, the OP seems to want a good row to develop. I’m with you in feeling on reading some comments, that I’ve entered sone kind of alternative reality.
The Conservatives earned a well deserved rejection by the electorate. To respond to that by suggesting Labourites might put some responsibility for the awful state the Tories left the country in seems like mega moaning.

... the OP seems to want a good row to develop.

It's inevitable.

I'm not sure if the beef is with "Labourites" or AR though. Maybe both.

Whatever. The post is a bit short on anything factual, more of a "huh, that Labour lot then, eh?" type of comment one might overhear in a supermarket aisle.