Who should lead the Tories now?

Boris Johnson.

What a good idea. Let’s bring back a disgraced former PM. A man who has lied and cheated in his personal and professional life for personal gain over and over again. A man who has contributed massively to a decline in standards in public life which has spilled out into ordinary life. Yes, that’s just what the country needs!

They need to decide what sort of party they are and I think this will lead to more in fighting and blood letting. If they go further right to try to gather Reform voters back in the fold, they will stay in the wilderness the same as Labour did when they followed Corbyn to the left. It will depend on who they choose as leader and if that's left up to members not MPs they'll go further right.

I have heard Victoria Atkins mentioned, the former Health Secretary.

Not that many to choose from.

I think they would do well to steer away from all the well known names, Hunt, Cleverley, (maybe spelt that wrong), and go for someone different.

Hopefully they won’t rush into it but depends if RS is willing to stay on until another leader is chosen.

There is a similar thread to this about a poisoned chalice, but I'll give the same response.

They should listen to Robert Buckland's speech from election night.

He was outlining whythe Tories failed and what they should have done.

Unless they start caring about this country more than they care about themselves they will not get anywhere. Public service not private gain.

BigMamma

Boris Johnson.

Johnson is not an MP thank goodness, add to the list Braverman, Badenoch and Patel, it’s not what Gransnet wants its local party members, those that chose Truss.

Unless they start caring about this country more than they care about themselves they will not get anywhere. Public service not private gain

Agreed keepingquiet.

I think the next leader they choose will clearly illustrate the party’s ’direction of travel’. Will they swing even further to the right - trying to ‘out Reform, Reform’? Who knows

I certainly hope we do not get Hunt.
He did a great deal to causing the current troubles in the NHS when he was Health Minister and I don’t think he was a good Chancellor either. He’s arrogant and dismissive. He will do nothing for the Conservatives.
I was sorry he retained his seat.

The Tories tend to choose a range of hopeless leaders after a defeat, if they had any sense it would be Badenoch.

Tobies Elwood was just on Breakfast saying that the Tories should decide the direction of the party before they decide who is best to lead.

*Tobias

keepingquiet

There is a similar thread to this about a poisoned chalice, but I'll give the same response.

They should listen to Robert Buckland's speech from election night.

He was outlining whythe Tories failed and what they should have done.

Unless they start caring about this country more than they care about themselves they will not get anywhere. Public service not private gain.

Yes, and first I think that they need to work out what they actually stand for.

Next it very much depends on who got voted in. Someone suggested that it was more left leaning which will make a difference to the eventual leader I would have thought.

However if it becomes a light Reform party, then I guess Farage will become a contestant.

Vintagewhine I so agree. As I have said on the other thread. They need to think about who will appeal to the broad electorate, not just party members, or just one small dead end of the electorate.

Farage's appeal is to a sector of the electorate that is going nowhere. Older, less well educated, living in the most seriously deprived marginal areas of the country with high unemployment and far from large urban centres and with very high votes for Brexit.

Just as the red wall od slightly less deprived cosntituencies lurched from to red to blue in 2019, and back in 2024, so these Blue constituncies have lurched from blue to purple now and will lurch back in 2030.

I live in a constituency that is younger than average, mainly highly educated scientists, IT people and other professionals. A slight rejigging of our constituency boundaries meant we went from Conservative not quite marginal, to large LibDem majority.

Local Labour people were shaken. What had been added to the constituency was a town, once 'the poorest in Oxfordshire' and solidly Labour, but in the last 10 years thousands of nice new houses have been built, Lots of 3/4/5 bedroomed detached houses, occupied by all the young highly educated technologist. It is now one of the richest towns in Oxfordshire

The Labour vote was down, Conservative vote nearly halved and Lib Dem vote went right up and won.

These constituencies aare the future of the country, centrist, European and concerned about global warming and the environment. Any new Conservative leader needs to be able to get these people on board - and a lurch to the right certainly won't do it.

Galaxy

The Tories tend to choose a range of hopeless leaders after a defeat, if they had any sense it would be Badenoch.

I agree Galaxy, but most on here won’t.

The answer will be who the Tory press think should be leader.

I dont think that's how things work anymore. The real organising is happening on social media, podcasts etc.

BigMamma

Boris Johnson.

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Great sense of humour you have 😂😂😂

Magsymoo

What a good idea. Let’s bring back a disgraced former PM. A man who has lied and cheated in his personal and professional life for personal gain over and over again. A man who has contributed massively to a decline in standards in public life which has spilled out into ordinary life. Yes, that’s just what the country needs!

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You mean Murdoch? 😱

It wouldnt be a good idea to bring Johnson back but they would have been in a better position if they had stuck with him. The question isnt who we like or who is a good man/woman, its who should lead the Tories, and I assume the aim of that leadership would be to gain power.

I was hoping this thread would be about how the Tories move forward and with whom.

I'm sorry it has become a sort of duplicate of the other one.

Both our Southend East and Southend Westcliff West have elected Labour, men of colour, for the first time ever ever.

Although we have an extremely mixed demographic, from deprived boroughs to very middle class areas to older people, to young professionals to £1m+ properties, very very mixed.

I’m delighted at the result and hope our local MPs work hard for the community, fight our corner in parliament and make a difference.

We have Grammar schools too, four of them, two girls, two boys, and good faith schools and some very poor schools too, so plenty of room for improvement here.

Time will tell.

Ooops sorry, I literally have zero idea about who should go onto to lead the Tories. I thought Sunak was a good chancellor and a weak leader, though his departing speech was excellent.

They seem to have a very small pool of people from whom to choose, it’ll probably be some like Pretti Patel!