Minister for Women and Equalities

Oh did she. That's brilliant news. I don't need to beat myself up for voting for them just yet

I've just been reading that. Anneliese Dodds has retweeted, too.

This is very encouraging, and what I hoped would happen - ie that the government can behave sensibly now they are not at risk of having their campaign derailed by TRAs when they were in opposition and risked their messaging being lost.

Mollygo

Yes Galaxy, but Starmer is now going to protect women. Let’s hope he means the AHF women.

Every time Starmer spoke about single-sex places & services, he immediately went on to speak about 'people who are unhappy with their gender'.
It sounded like he was trying to bamboozle everyone into thinking he's on their side.

It seems Wes Streeting used to support the trans stuff but has now changed his mind after looking into it all properly.
He's unlikely to be shaken on that now.

Wes Streeting has produced a response on X to those who are making increasingly hideous accusations against him.. Thankfully he is ignoring their awful behaviour and standing firm.

There seems to be a tension between accusations of over explaining and not explaining enough .

I think we are all on the same side here, aren’t we? We want women’s spaces for women, and I doubt anyone wants VAWG to continue.

It’s too early to know whether the government will do better than the last one as regards either of these things, but so far it’s looking promising, I think.

You’ll need to look it up, like I did.

I haven’t heard her making dismissive remarks about male abuse or suicide so I can’t comment on her views Mollygo. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

Of course, one doesn’t dismiss the other - I’d be very surprised if JP has said that!

I think a ceasefire in Gaza is still a contentious issue.
I’m glad she’s prepared to support AHF, but she was very dismissive of male abuse, suicides etc.
Do you think one shoukd dismiss the other.

Why do people on this thread feel they need to explain things that all of us know

Because Galaxy, we’re not all mind readers - how do we know what everyone else on the thread knows or doesn’t know🤷‍♀️

I know about the list of murdered women strangely enough. Why do people on this thread feel they need to explain things that all of us know.
If there is a person on here for example who doesnt have an understanding of the implications of the cass report I will eat my hat.
My interpretation of bravery is just different to yours. She received abuse from those who dont agree with the labour party's position on Gaza, the fact she resigned made not the slightest difference to them, almost as if whatever we do it will never be enough. It is horrific she received that abuse. I to be honest wouldnt ask her to address the issues that caused that intimidation.
I dont think she is brave in terms of boldness of strategy, there are very few politicians who have that.

Galaxy I think Jess Phillips is extremely brave. Her recent actions demonstrate this.

She resigned from her previous shadow front bench role so she could vote in favour of a ceasefire in Gaza, when this was still a contentious issue.

During the election campaign in her Birmingham constituency she, and her supporters, were subjected to disgraceful intimidation and harassment by opponents. Despite this, she stood fast and won the seat. During her acceptance speech she was booed by her opponent’s supporters - from George Galloway’s party. She remained strong, calm and steadfast throughout.

In the HoC, even as a member of the opposition, she has always been a champion for women. Once a year, she stands up in parliament and reads out all the names of women who have been violently murdered that year. I watched this once - it was incredibly moving and powerful.

Jess Phillips is a brave, strong woman! I’m glad she’s back on the front bench, where she belongs.

I dont mind Jess Philios but not sure she is brave enough. I am afraid I just dont believe the halve VAWG pledge, I dont actually think that's within any governments power.

Glad to hear that LizzieDrip its time we tackled the issues, it's so prevalent. Where to start in a society where it's so common, tho - How can we change it...

Very pleased to see Jess Phillips back in government, as minister leading on safeguarding and violence against women and girls (VAWG). It’s a role that is close to her heart and I believe she’ll make a real difference now she has some actual power. She’s not afraid to ‘say it like it is’.

Due to her new role, she’s stepping down from her podcast with Beth Rigby - I’ll miss her on that (love its title ‘Electoral Dysfunction)!

Yes, as I said in my post, women were sacked for stating the obvious.

We don't know, and may never know, the extent of the power that Stonewall had over the LP, which is already disadvantaged by the fact that there is a predominantly right wing press, but we have seen how trans ideology infiltrated institutions such as the NHS, education and councils. I have said repeatedly that I do not agree with the things that were said, but what is said out of office is very different from what is said in government.

If Starmer or any of the Cabinet continues to suggest that they don't understand the difference between men and women I will be the first to criticise, but until then, I am waiting to see what the new government does rather than says. They won't have to do a lot to have done more than the last one, but I have hopes that they will go further than drawing level - in fact, if they have banned puberty blockers permanently they have already gone further.

So the Telegraph headline is in fact trying to smear Labour by suggesting they might have been (shock horror might still be) in favour of it but are changing its mind - when its now illegal anyway.
Absolutely nothing of the sort, Wyllow.
Doodledog has quoted a relevant point from the article; there are others. Nowhere is the article trying to smear Labour.

Doodledog, not sarcastic, just what I really hope.

Starmer seems to have realised that no women have a penis, but whether he will support females when faced by an angry male waving a GRC and demanding entry to female safe spaces is a wait and see matter.

The Labour candidate (actual real candidate) who knocked on my door wasn’t sure about Labour’s policy on women.

When pressed on Labour’s policy on female safety as opposed to women’s safety, she did know what I was asking, but she clearly found answering difficult.

I agree with Wes Streetings approach, he to be fair was one of the ones who changed his mind earlier than the rest. I was pointing out to those asking whether women had been arrested, etc, that if it wasnt for the GC women who lost jobs etc that we wouldnt be at this point. It is down to the bravery of those women that the conversation even began.

Are you being sarcastic, Molly? It’s hard to tell from your post

There are many facets to all of this. The women’s spaces issue is one, and puberty blockers (and all the ‘wrong body’ nonsense) is another. There is also the changing of language, coercing people into seeming to buy into gender ideology by declaring pronouns, males in women’s sport, and more.

Dealing with one aspect at a time seems sensible - if puberty blockers are banned (other than for medical reasons) it will protect children, which has to be a good thing, and will not preclude the government protecting women by tackling the other issues in turn.

It’s been a week. It’s taken years to get to this point, during which the government has been in opposition to a party which has done nothing. Give them a chance.

Yes Galaxy, but Starmer is now going to protect women. Let’s hope he means the AHF women.

You should see the names Wes Streeting is being called by trans activists, there is going to be a lot of kickback, they need to stand firm.
Sorry but women have been hounded out of jobs for saying men cant be women. Maya forstater, alison bailey, etc, all have won their legal cases. The reason Cass happened was because of the bravery of the GC feminists and the whistleblowers. The reason we are even beginning to have sane discussions about wonens spaces, is due to women like Maya, Julie Bindel, Kathleen Stock, etc, while Labour were buggering about claiming women have penises.

Wyllow, the ban is not permanent, or not until now - potentially, anyway. It is temporary until September 3rd:

Laws to ban the blockers being supplied to children by private or off-shore clinics were passed by Victoria Atkins, his predecessor, in emergency legislation ahead of the general election. These are due to expire on Sep 3, and it is understood Labour will now seek to renew the ban with a view to making it permanent. (Telegraph)

I agree with Namsnanny that DEI is in thrall to Stonewall and trans ideology. Universities, the NHS, councils and media organisations may be pulling back now, but they were completely 'captured', and have changed vocabulary in leaflets, sacked staff for daring to say 'outrageous' things such as that it is impossible to change sex, compelled workers to comply with ideology by declaring pronouns on emails and screens and so on.

If you read Mumsnet, or sex-matters.org you will find lots of examples of women being arrested for leafleting or stickering. It is widely known about.

namsnanny

"The NHS stopped the routine prescription of puberty blocker treatments to under-18s following the Cass Review into gender identity services.

In addition, the government has also introduced indefinite restrictions to the prescribing of these medicines within NHS primary care in England, in line with NHS guidelines (Gov.UK)

Its permanent.

"Because, as you know if you take funding from gov. Etc. You are then open to pressure to conform to DEI, which is completely enthralled to the trans ideology"

This is also inaccurate: examples?

"Some of these women, leading ordinary lives but with extraordinary courage, have been arrested for delivering leaflets (no other party was) which said nothing more than 'I'm here and I believe in safe spaces for women and children. Men cannot be women etc."

Where? I have googled to no avail.

Is it not a temporary ban that's why it's being reported? Arent the good law project trying to get it overturned. Certainly Jolyon Maughan is advising 'trans families' to leave Britain. You can always rely on his calm measured approach.