Did anyone else spot this about Reform?

It doesn't matter whether climate change is natural or mand made, the result is the same and for humans to indulge in practices that are likely to make natural climate change worse is like pouring petrol on a house to put out a a fire.

Farage supports Andrew Tate and thinks he is a good role model for young men. Farage is a misogynist.

Reform dont believe in climate change:

laid out here
www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/31/factcheck-no-richard-tice-volcanoes-are-not-to-blame-for-climate-change

support fracking, etc. Call it "clean coal mining"

Another genuine question. For those who seem to think that Reform hold all the answers to the countries problems why are they opposed to wind farms because they can injure birds but agree with a party that want to scrap net zero even though global warming is far more of a danger to wildlife and the world in general?

Genuine question, GSM, what would you like to see? At the moment Reforms "send back the boats" isn't possible, and Rwanda wasn't going to remove the problem either and came at absolutely huge cost.

What you say, cossy

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t trust Labour to take a tough line on immigration Cossy, nothing in their manifesto or that they have said to date inspires confidence. Therefore I want them to be under constant pressure to be tough. We’ve been hearing about growth, investment, planning but I have yet to hear a word about immigration.

I agree. They must resolve the issue of asylum seekers. They need a safe way to enter, very quick turnarounds on processing claims, and a quick return if not meeting the criteria.

Left leaning as I can be, given some of the tree nonsense around appeals I’m not even sure appeals should be allowed except in extremely extenuating circumstances.

It’s is an issue, human traffickers are making a fortune, people are losing their lives, those who are economic migrants are ruining it for those who are genuinely seeking asylum.

mae13

Farage, in his first appearance in the commons, and he launched a snide and insulting attack on John Bercow. I'm not a fan of Bercow but it was uncalled for.
Is this a sign of the kind of behaviour we can expect from Reform - more yah boo politics?

I fear it is! Sadly this will encourage others to retaliate. This isn’t what we need!

Whitewavemark2

Reform gained 14% of the share of votes.

The progressive parties gained between 57% and 60% if you include the independents.

Not everyone voting Tory is far right.

So I’m unclear why moving further to the right is terribly sensible for the Tories.

Very few people who vote conservative are “far right”.

I know some decent hard working Tories. There were some very good, caring, hard working Tory MPs including the late David Amess.

There are good and no so good MPs in almost every political party.

nanna8

I really wish the constant attacks on Farage would cease because now I am beginning to like him and think he has influence after all. He seems to be the whipping boy for everyone. His party only has 5 MPs so why the fuss ?

It doesn’t matter how many or how few MPs any party has, they have to act within the war.

Farage courts attention, bad or good, all publicity is good.

Please don’t be fooled by his “nice guy, almost victim, normal man in the street”, it’s a lie, he’s divisive and persuasive and a great orator. He has much in common with others in the past not associated with great things!

One of his ex schoolmates has much to say about him including how proud he was of his far right leanings.

Make no mistake, he’s a very dangerous man!

The tories will have been out and about a lot recently and should be able to see what's gone wrong. Personally I don't think they will benefit from moving to the edges (too far right or left). Surely they need to be more "centred".

I don't see the point in the conservatives moving to the right. Reform had no viable policy on turning back the boats, and their economic policies were fact checked as rubbish.

They need their own voice.

Reform gained 14% of the share of votes.

The progressive parties gained between 57% and 60% if you include the independents.

Not everyone voting Tory is far right.

So I’m unclear why moving further to the right is terribly sensible for the Tories.

nanna8

Nigel Farage is not a racist. Some of his followers may well be but he,personally, is not. Some of the Labour party followers are racist. Some of the Conservative followers are racist.

And you are certain of this because?

gg13

I meant that Reform are racist, xenophobic and misogynistic.

Not the voter. I don’t really know what motivates someone to vote for such a mostly crew.

Nigel Farage is not a racist. Some of his followers may well be but he,personally, is not. Some of the Labour party followers are racist. Some of the Conservative followers are racist.

I have that feeling too GG. The Conservatives will be well aware of the number of votes which Reform garnered. I fully expect them to appoint a leader who is pretty far to the right.

Germanshepherdsmum

Doubtless, wwm, when there is anything to report on the immigration front you will mention it on your 100 days thread. So far the silence is deafening. The importance of the issue to the British public is demonstrated by the size of the Reform vote.

Then you haven’t been reading it.

I’m sure you don’t want me to list the work so far carried out be Cooper.

Whitewavemark2

GrannyGravy13

I am not a Reform supporter.

My opinion is that Nigel Farage, Richard Tice et al must be doing something right to get under their opponents skin…

Yes I agree all those who oppose racism, xenophobia and misogyny.

Count me as one.

Not sure it’s that simple Whitewavemark2

Reform seems to have tapped into the psyche of disenfranchised voters. I don’t think they are all racist, misogynists or xenophobic.

I for one would not be happy if the Conservative Party cosied up to them, but have a feeling that it could happen depending on who is elected as their leader.

Agree GSM, hope they do keep up the pressure. I dont trust the LP with this either.

GrannyGravy13

I am not a Reform supporter.

My opinion is that Nigel Farage, Richard Tice et al must be doing something right to get under their opponents skin…

Yes I agree all those who oppose racism, xenophobia and misogyny.

Count me as one.

I am not a Reform supporter.

My opinion is that Nigel Farage, Richard Tice et al must be doing something right to get under their opponents skin…

Freya
I wonder why, when Reform concern is about this country. Unlike some other MPs whose only concern is an area thousands of miles away.

You mean like the Reform candidate in Bristol South who lives in Gibraltar 1,600 miles away?

(Now that does bear being investigated. It won't be of course.)

Whitewavemark2

I assume if it is found that there were indeed votes cast for non-existent candidates, then Farage will be taken to court?

That would only mean yet more publicity and opportunities for him to spout his racist rubbish.

Doubtless, wwm, when there is anything to report on the immigration front you will mention it on your 100 days thread. So far the silence is deafening. The importance of the issue to the British public is demonstrated by the size of the Reform vote.

Germanshepherdsmum

Is he? I must have missed that.

I want him to keep pressure on Labour to stop uncontrolled immigration.

I assume you are talking about uncontrolled asylum seekers ?

Which totalled nearly 85k last year.

There are a little under 129k waiting initial decision due as a result of Home Office inefficiency.