Yvette Cooper / Migrant Watch / Stopping The Boats

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I agree unnecessary language but it is important to realise his relatively middle ground status, when they say "Chief Immigration Officer" you think "the boss".

By the way, this is the previously posted video of Saunders a few pages back - he doesn't allude to Starmer in it.

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www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0715/1460054-from-morning-to-night-how-the-clashes-in-coolock-developed/

Nicenanny3

youtu.be/aTfPEyei4GI?si=w7WkmjKhpXiJSa5c

All kicking off in Coolock when will our politicians listen to what the people want.

Lets take a closer look at the short video posted here and the facts - and the far right party - behind it.

Coolock is an area of Dublin which has an old factory which the government planned to convert into a centre which was for refugee seekers families as well as single men.

Protesters were held on and off for a few weeks preventing work being carried out before matters came to a head.

The article I refer to below is quite long but needs careful reading as it emerges that the far right Stephen Redmond of the National Party was behind the organisation and co-ordination of the incidents using social media networks

The incidents over time were marked by personal death threats to security guards (“"you’ll end up getting shot, standing there... just so you know what you’re getting yourself in for.”) fire bombs, injuries and ambulances as well as police called

This resulted in arrests.

“https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2024/0715/1460054-from-morning-to-night-how-the-clashes-in-coolock-developed/
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The response :

The Irish justice minister called it “an effort to spread fear and hate”

*Dublin city councillor Mícheál Mac Donncha described the incident as "deplorable" and that "violence, intimidation and arson should have no place in our communities".
The burning of vehicles and attempted burning of the building are violent criminal acts and must be strongly condemned," the Sinn Féin representative said*

He said the Department of Integration had said the site was being developed to accommodate families seeking international protection.

“Those responsible should desist immediately," he added.
"This is an effort to spread fear and hate in our communities and the vast majority of decent people want nothing to do with it."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c51yvww23nxo

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Callistemon213

So has the Home Office taken on a lot of new recruits and trained them thoroughly in assessing the asylum claims in order to deal with the backlog?
If not, how can this be expedited?

I do know that they have a more up to date computer system.

Goodness!! 😯

Callistemon213

So has the Home Office taken on a lot of new recruits and trained them thoroughly in assessing the asylum claims in order to deal with the backlog?
If not, how can this be expedited?

I do know that they have a more up to date computer system.

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So easy to bandy the word racist around. I have never met anyone who is racist, most folks are tolerant and kindly.

Merion - cracking post, thanks so much for setting the truth about Saunders

You do know that a Chief Immigration Officer is not a senior position in the Border Force? It’s remarkable that Saunders gets so much media attention, not least that, as Casdon points out, he has been retired for eight years.

CIO is an HEO grade in the Civil Service just three grades up from the most junior of admin staff. After that you have Immigration Officer (SEO) then Assistant Director (Grade 7), Deputy Director (Grade 6), Director (SCS1), Senior Director (SCS2) then Director General (SCS3).

The two most senior officers in Border Force are Director General Phil Douglas and Chief Operating Officer Steve Dann.

Would I care to name someone more experienced? Yes, I would. Steve Dann. The proof is here:

www.gov.uk/government/people/steve-dann

As opposed to Saunders who describes himself on LinkedIn:

I am an expert in the working on the UK border and control system, and the juxtaposed controls in France.I worked closely the French frontier police (PAF) and French customs authority. I worked with both DFDS and P&O to make the ferry crossing of the Channel efficient and secure.

Just a sample of socials about Saunders:

Astonishing that someone as dim and inarticulate as Kevin Saunders could ever have risen to be the chief of UK Border Force (which of course he didn’t). Defends the Tory Rwanda rendition scam, yet can’t answer a single question about how Israel’s Rwanda scheme ended in farce. Thick as a brick.

Why does BBC R4 keep interviewing Kevin Saunders & introducing him as former Border Force Chief Immigration Officer, implying he was in charge of the Border Force, when he was a CIO - what is now called a Border Force Higher Officer and thus one of many middle managers?

Nasty, ignorant racist Kevin Saunders is on BBC again spewing bile. Saunders is an embarrassing repellent man. Hideous on the outside and inside.

Speak for yourself!

A lot has changed in eight years, once retired we all become dinosaurs quickly. I’m sure that the government will be relying on people with up to date knowledge and experience.

Primrose53

Casdon

Kevin Saunders retired in 2016. Migrants started arriving in numbers by boat in the UK in 2018.

And? He has more experience than you or I and more than anybody I could name. Perhaps you would care to name somebody you consider more experienced?

He has vast experience of keeping illegal immigrants out of our country having worked in Calais for most of those years so knows all the places they try to hide in lorries etc.

He clearly did a good job because hardly any come in by road now. He also still keeps a watch on what’s going on with the boat people. I imagine you don’t spend years working for Border Force and just walk away, uninterested when you retire.

He looks to me like a stupid old twat with nothing better to do with his time.

Somebody bunging him a few quid I suppose.

*Good post, Jackiest.

Casdon

Kevin Saunders retired in 2016. Migrants started arriving in numbers by boat in the UK in 2018.

And? He has more experience than you or I and more than anybody I could name. Perhaps you would care to name somebody you consider more experienced?

He has vast experience of keeping illegal immigrants out of our country having worked in Calais for most of those years so knows all the places they try to hide in lorries etc.

He clearly did a good job because hardly any come in by road now. He also still keeps a watch on what’s going on with the boat people. I imagine you don’t spend years working for Border Force and just walk away, uninterested when you retire.

Kevin Saunders retired in 2016. Migrants started arriving in numbers by boat in the UK in 2018.

Nicenanny3. What did I tell you? 🤣🤣🤣

olddog

Maybe the word " former" is relevant here?

He retired. Sorry if that doesn’t fit your agenda olddog

Over 60% of asylum claims are granted.

The comparative numbers do not suggest that the threat of being sent to Rwanda has had any affect on the number of arrivals. In fact, more people arrived in the first six months of this year than in the previous two years.

In 2022, there were around 13 asylum applications for every 10,000 people living in the UK. Across the EU27 there were 22 asylum applications for every 10,000 people. The UK was therefore below the average among EU countries for asylum applications per head of population, ranking 19th among EU27 countries plus the UK on this measure.

Source: commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn01403/

According to the Express link: Mr Saunders is alleged to have said: “Now, of course, we're seeing that the Kurds over in northern France have come up with a name for Kier, which they which I think means "the friendly one", because they all believe that he's going to be very good for illegal migration.”

Leaving aside that the paper’s Home Affairs and Defence Editor cannot spell the name of the Prime Minister - unless Mr Edwards can speak Kurmanji - then he doesn’t know what they are saying.

I'll leave you to believing what you read in right-wing tabloids and the ramblings of Lee Anderson. MRDA.

I don't think there is any way of stopping the immigrants by force. All methods will either be ineffective or against human rights. The only method that will work is to persuade people not to to come. Many of the people coming have a rosy false idea of what it is like here and are sadly disillusioned when they get here. So we should advertise in the countries they are coming from what it is really like here and that it is best not to try. We could then spend the money we are spending trying to stop them on improving the countries where they are and trying to persuade their leaders to be more tolerant and less war like. Not an easy task but trying to put up barriers is not working and costing billions.

16:17Primrose53

Yes Primrose I agree 👏👏👏

youtu.be/aTfPEyei4GI?si=w7WkmjKhpXiJSa5c

All kicking off in Coolock when will our politicians listen to what the people want.

Strange really that " The Kurds" ( all of them?) and the Syrian gangmasters are able to communicate so effectively and decide KS is the friendly one.

Ah well, the wonders of modern technology I suppose.