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Yvette Cooper / Migrant Watch / Stopping The Boats

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Nicenanny3 Fri 12-Jul-24 08:30:16

French police stand by and watch the boats leave for Britain. Now you are in charge Yvette Cooper what's your plan after you cancelled the Rwanda deterrent?

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 11:44:44

Because I read/saw they were on YouTube.

Where are they all going to go once rubber stamped because that is what will happen. MOST have no IDs and will be out on the streets to free up the hotels etc. No one will be sent back. Really it's an amnesty all will be allowed to stay.

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Jul-24 11:26:14

Yes, you did:

What has happened is that the last government had literally stopped processing people altogether once the Rwanda bill was passed,

and they have now started up again with currently available staff with a view to recruiting more asap.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 11:14:00

Well, you said they were all undocumented.

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 11:08:56

Germanshepherdsmum

We knew those earmarked for Rwanda would be permitted to apply for asylum - those who had been detained in readiness for flying to Rwanda being released. That’s not quite what you were originally saying Nicenanny, and how do you know they are all undocumented?

I don't know if they are all undocumented just relaying what I've watched /read on YouTube not on MSM.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 10:56:59

I’m sure if that had happened they would have made sure it was publicised.

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 10:50:50

So has the Home Office taken on a lot of new recruits and trained them thoroughly in assessing the asylum claims in order to deal with the backlog?
If not, how can this be expedited?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 10:43:07

We knew those earmarked for Rwanda would be permitted to apply for asylum - those who had been detained in readiness for flying to Rwanda being released. That’s not quite what you were originally saying Nicenanny, and how do you know they are all undocumented?

Casdon Tue 16-Jul-24 10:42:23

It’s good to hear that the backlog will start being cleared at last, thanks for telling us Nicenanny3.

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 10:38:52

Labour is to allow more than 100,000 migrants to apply for asylum after scrapping Rishi Sunak’s Rwanda scheme, Sir Keir Starmer’s spokesman indicated on Monday.

Some 90,000 migrants earmarked for deportation to Rwanda will be among the 102,000 who will be processed through the asylum system.

The move came as the first migrant boat crossed the Channel since Sir Keir won the election as his spokesman admitted it would be a “challenging” summer for the Government. (Telegraph Newspaper)

Merion Tue 16-Jul-24 10:37:57

Data for this time last year.

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 10:32:07

Labour to allow 100,000 migrants to apply for asylum
Indication comes as first migrant boat crossed the Channel since Sir Keir Starmer took power

By
Charles Hymas
, HOME AFFAIRS EDITOR
8 July 2024 • 9:17pm Telegraph Newspaper

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 10:29:23

Germanshepherdsmum

Looks like 427 arrived yesterday?

Yes got muddled up there putting total instead of new arrivals 👍

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 10:28:20

Do you have a link to the release of all these undocumented immigrants?

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 10:26:59

100, 000 undocumented asylum seekers who paid smugglers to get here to be released under Labour Government. It will free up hotels /accommodation for the next arrivals so they say, but where are they going to go and live. 1185 new arrivals and counting in 10 days 😡

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Jul-24 10:25:12

Looks like 427 arrived yesterday?

Nicenanny3 Tue 16-Jul-24 10:22:27

7 boats yesterday carrying 758 new arrivals making the total since Labour came to power 1185.

Nicenanny3 Mon 15-Jul-24 12:12:16

758 total since 6th July. 41 new arrivals on boat yesterday, there could be more who arrive undected and just disappear.

Sparklefizz Mon 15-Jul-24 11:37:25

If houses are empty because the owner has gone into care and the relatives need to sell it, or because the next of kin are in the throes of obtaining probate, you can't fill that house with asylum seekers, can you?? For goodness sake........

My area is overcrowded and the Council has been told to build 20,000 more houses - the hospitals, doctors' surgeries and schools can't cope, and there are no NHS dentists.

foxie48 Mon 15-Jul-24 11:24:36

Germanshepherdsmum

Many will belong to people who have died or gone into care, waiting to be sold. Many will also be undergoing refurbishment.

They are still empty and their owners are living elsewhere or if they are deceased they are still empty. Surely one of the problems that we have as we have areas of the country where people don't want to live because there are few jobs so the housing stock is left empty and falls into disrepair. Levelling up was a great slogan but there's little evidence that much progress was made. Our Island is not overcrowded but we have areas of the country that are overcrowded because that's where the jobs are. This also puts huge pressure on the services in those areas but makes it difficult to recruit people because they can't afford to live there.

Casdon Mon 15-Jul-24 11:13:55

One of the biggest potential sources of housing is surely unoccupied office blocks? They obviously aren’t all located in suitable areas, or possible to convert, but many probably are. I don’t see us reverting back to office based working in the future because of the overheads and environmental impact, so it would make sense to make use of them where possible.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 15-Jul-24 10:49:24

Many will belong to people who have died or gone into care, waiting to be sold. Many will also be undergoing refurbishment.

foxie48 Mon 15-Jul-24 10:19:07

"How many empty homes? The Department for Levelling Up, Housing and Communities (DLUHC) publishes data on homes classed as empty for Council Tax purposes. In October 2022, there were 676,304 recorded empty homes in England. This is a 3.6% increase on the previous year's total."

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn03012/

Nicenanny3 Mon 15-Jul-24 09:56:03

09:28foxie48

And when they are all processed and out of hotel /temporary accommodation where are they going to live? It's never going to end because more are waiting over in Calais to fill their places. We already have a housing problem here, OK Rayner's going to build 1.5 million homes supposedly, well we'll need them just for the new arrivals.

Callistemon213 Mon 15-Jul-24 09:54:40

foxie48

Callistemon213

*We can't just stack them up in hotels, barges or army barracks and hope they go away or even worse*

I'd just like to point out the "Army barracks" I know of, being sneered at on GN, consists of decent housing recently occupied by army families, now occupied by Afghan families.

Many British families desperately waiting for social housing would be thankful for them and I'm sure the Afghan families are thankful and relieved to be living here too. Local people have been generous and kind in helping them.

No sneer here about the accommodation, it's the time taken to process people that is the issue and the resulting backlog leading to people being unable to start making a contribution to our society that I posted about.

Ok, but stacking them up made it sound as if they're in a dormitory of bunk beds in a spartan boarding school !

I take the point and agree about the stacking up on list and failure to process these people quickly.

Nicenanny3 Mon 15-Jul-24 09:47:08

I have every sympathy for genuine refugees fleeing war like the Ukrainians who have come to live in Britain but I have no sympathy for the economic migrants who have paid the smuggling gangs thousands and thousands of Euros to come here or the men waiting in Calais sometimes for months/year to try and sneak on a lorry to get here when they are already in a safe place the EU. Why do you think many destroy their ID papers and then tell a tale to stay here because they know eventually they will be able too.