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Donald Trump claims "Our God Saves"......

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mae13 Tue 16-Jul-24 12:13:30

........but it would have been more impressive if "Our God" had prevented the assassination attempt in the first place.

Just where was he when the would-be assassin pulled the trigger?

Wyllow3 Wed 17-Jul-24 00:26:18

To be able to buy your way into an election to this extent - something very wrong here. (Whichever side) Can't help feeling - money could be spent on schools to update equipment or to help in the lack of medical care in the USA.

Macadia Tue 16-Jul-24 21:13:42

varian

Urmstongran

Elon Musk reportedly plans to give up to $45m (£35m) a month to support Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Of course Elon Musk supports Trump.

Trump's main policy is to reduce taxes for billionaires.

He doesn't give a toss for the poor fools who turn up at his rallies thinking he might help them in some way. Helping poor folk has never been on his agenda.

Well said, Varian !

NotSpaghetti Tue 16-Jul-24 19:11:07

Joseann

^sorry to keep on about it - but I truly believe it's dangerous when a leader claims, God on my side^.
I am reminded of Cromwell's famous words,
It's an odd thing, Mr. Ireton. Every man who wages war believes God is on his side. I'll warrant God should often wonder who is on his.

And the witchunts and crusades...

varian Tue 16-Jul-24 19:03:15

Urmstongran

Elon Musk reportedly plans to give up to $45m (£35m) a month to support Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Of course Elon Musk supports Trump.

Trump's main policy is to reduce taxes for billionaires.

He doesn't give a toss for the poor fools who turn up at his rallies thinking he might help them in some way. Helping poor folk has never been on his agenda.

Farzanah Tue 16-Jul-24 18:07:15

As a humanist I do have respect for those of faith. Life can be hard and faith can sustain and offer hope to some, and upbringing in a religious household can have long lasting influence.

I just think science has a more logical explanation for life but of course doesn’t explain all.

However I think actions speak louder than words - as they say.

Rekarie Tue 16-Jul-24 18:05:56

Melania has issued a statement. It's quite touching really.

Social media has a huge part to play in all this. People get so whipped up and can say shocking things thinking they're on the right side.

Jack Black has had to cancel his tour after Kyle Gass shouted out what many have been saying. Shame he missed or something along those lines.

Political hate speech is now being curtailed. Both Republicans and Democrats will have to watch their words very carefully.

Anyhow, if you've not watched The Social Dilemma I'd recommend it. The tech guys who started the social media platforms explaining the not so great side of SM

Namsnanny Tue 16-Jul-24 18:03:47

He is a God isnt he? 🤣

JenniferEccles Tue 16-Jul-24 17:38:43

Oh thank you Namsnanny* !

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 17:28:49

HousePlantQueen

Wyllow3

I cant help feeling sorry for him, maybe completely wrongly! What a weird childhood.

Yes, so do I. I hate Trump and all he stands for, but what a strange childhood Barron must have had. The ice queen for a Mother, Trump for a Father with all the disgusting revelations about his sexual abuse, rape, and friendship with Epstein etc.

Ice Queen?

I think Melania maintains a dignified silence.

You cannot comment with certainty on a mother's relationship with her child unless you have knowledge the rest of us don't.

JaneJudge Tue 16-Jul-24 17:20:43

Trump and God together, what a combo

Namsnanny Tue 16-Jul-24 17:15:41

JenniferEccles

I’m sure Trump must be well aware that what saved him was the fact that he turned his head a split second before the bullet grazed his ear.

Of course as a believer in God he will insist that divine intervention saved the day!

It’s the same as when friends and relatives ( and indeed strangers sometimes) are asked to pray for a seriously ill person. If he or she then survives it’s said that the prayers had been answered, rather than acknowledging that medical intervention played a big part.

Anyway maybe the believers are right. As a non believer, I can’t prove God doesn’t exist, and faith undoubtedly does bring a huge amount of comfort to some.

Well balanced post JEccles
Pleasure to read it😊

JenniferEccles Tue 16-Jul-24 17:03:28

Exactly Farzanah
And what about the poor devil who isn’t prayed for as all his family, friends and associates are non-believers?
Is he doomed?

Farzanah Tue 16-Jul-24 16:53:16

When ill people do not survive after being prayed for then “it’s God’s will”. There’s just no answer to that is there? God wins both ways……

JenniferEccles Tue 16-Jul-24 16:35:15

I’m sure Trump must be well aware that what saved him was the fact that he turned his head a split second before the bullet grazed his ear.

Of course as a believer in God he will insist that divine intervention saved the day!

It’s the same as when friends and relatives ( and indeed strangers sometimes) are asked to pray for a seriously ill person. If he or she then survives it’s said that the prayers had been answered, rather than acknowledging that medical intervention played a big part.

Anyway maybe the believers are right. As a non believer, I can’t prove God doesn’t exist, and faith undoubtedly does bring a huge amount of comfort to some.

Urmstongran Tue 16-Jul-24 16:02:36

Elon Musk reportedly plans to give up to $45m (£35m) a month to support Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Jul-24 15:50:18

HousePlantQueen

Wyllow3

I cant help feeling sorry for him, maybe completely wrongly! What a weird childhood.

Yes, so do I. I hate Trump and all he stands for, but what a strange childhood Barron must have had. The ice queen for a Mother, Trump for a Father with all the disgusting revelations about his sexual abuse, rape, and friendship with Epstein etc.

Recommending injecting disinfectant in Covid........

flump Tue 16-Jul-24 15:40:20

More like:- 'the devil looks after his own'.

Purplepixie Tue 16-Jul-24 15:35:54

He’s off his rocker yet he could be president? How? He incites hatred!!!! Help the world is going to be a scary place.

HousePlantQueen Tue 16-Jul-24 15:28:55

Wyllow3

I cant help feeling sorry for him, maybe completely wrongly! What a weird childhood.

Yes, so do I. I hate Trump and all he stands for, but what a strange childhood Barron must have had. The ice queen for a Mother, Trump for a Father with all the disgusting revelations about his sexual abuse, rape, and friendship with Epstein etc.

madeleine45 Tue 16-Jul-24 15:27:18

Whilst I would not advocate killing anyone, as it is both against the law and also against the person who commits the murder and has to come to terms with taking another persons life, I consider Trump reaps what he sows! He encouraged people to storm the government and to behave in a despicable manner. and take the law into their own hands He thinks if he says something isnt true enough times it becomes so. You cannot encourage people to behave in an illegal and appalling way, and then complain when another person behaves in exactly the way you have encouraged others to behave. I find it deeply worrying that there are people in the USA who actually wants this delusional, self serving, arrogant ignorant person to be their president This does not bode well for the future.

HousePlantQueen Tue 16-Jul-24 15:24:06

Callistemon213

HousePlantQueen

Anyone else notice that his two self serving sons were at his side, but Melania is nowhere to be seen?

Just as well as Barron may have been there too.

Whatever people think, that would be a frightening thing for his youngest son to witness.

there is no reason at all why Barron would have to be there if his Mother was, he is not a toddler.

HousePlantQueen Tue 16-Jul-24 15:21:26

olddog

Urmstongran

Trump’s relief must be huge. I can understand his relief it must be immense.

I cannot believe he won’t have contacted the widow (? source)and the family of the man who lost his life in the shooting. In fact I’d go as far as to say that family will be well supported by DT.

Funny old God that saves Trump but allows babies to die.

Yes, it's a pity that same Trump saving God wasn't on duty when that man ran amok shooting in Sandy Hook, killing 20 6 and 7 year olds, plus 6 teachers.

Wyllow3 Tue 16-Jul-24 15:09:38

I cant help feeling sorry for him, maybe completely wrongly! What a weird childhood.

Callistemon213 Tue 16-Jul-24 14:38:32

"While Barron is honoured to have been chosen as a delegate by the Florida Republican Party, he regretfully declines to participate due to prior commitments," a spokeswoman for Mrs Trump said in a statement

Farzanah Tue 16-Jul-24 14:37:54

Callistemon213

Clawdy

And "Our God" didn't save the man who died protecting his family.

And he claims Biden has lost the plot!!

Trump never found it in the first place.

😂😂