Biden to stand down?

Well that’s me telt.

It’s not actually Urmstongran, it’s well known that education liberates people, and worldwide, the educated are far less likely to vote for populist leaders.

Tosh.

Wyllow3

Similar cuts Education.

Populist leaders like Trump don’t really want the electorate to be educated, do they

Similar cuts Education.

Thank you for that summary, Syracute.

Important to add:

The Trump Administration’s Health Care Sabotage.

Many many in poverty cannot access more than the most basic medical care. Cancer/complex conditions Care? Forget it if you don't have substantial insurance.

One of the first things Biden did was rejoin the Paris agreement wasn’t it.

nanna8

Trump very much appeals to emotional feelings of patriotism. If you are American and not happy with the way things are going you would listen to him and probably support him. He is totally confident that he will be the next President. He is a good speaker, far ,far better than Biden. He avoided speaking of anything controversial, just how he will ‘make America great again’ . He didn’t particularly attack Biden, he didn’t need to. Definitely appealed to the Baptists and spoke as a believer.
What did he do that was so dreadful last time he was President? The worst thing,to me, was his behaviour when he lost the Presidency and wouldn’t accept it.

I am sorry but the speech was a disaster . He out and LIED 20 different times on 20 different subjects . People fell asleep watching it . Those are his supporters .
The worst thing ? An insurrection! People died and he still denies the election results .
It is also inferred by his VP that they would question the results .
His Presidency was awash with his constant lies. His comments were often racist or fanned the flames of existing discourse , He refusal to condemn the white supremacists in Charlottesville where one person , a protestor against these vile people was purposefully run over and killed .
He appointed 3 Supreme Court Justices that have overturned Roe vs Wade and continue to undermine our democracy .
He obstructed the Mueller investigation which was an obstruction of justice
He abused the pardon power and did not consult the judicial committee .
The Ukraine affair and cover up . Please look up too lengthy to cover up .
Firing whistle blowers and truth tellers who were a part of his administration .
Massive conflicts of interest while in Presidency.
His mishandling of Covid .
For me especially , taking a wrecking ball to the environment and lifting bans on oil and gas exploration in the Arctic National Refuge .
Rolling back 100 different Environmental Rules having to do with emissions and other protections to the environment , protections to animals, water pollution and toxic substances.
Exiting the Paris Climate Agreement .

Thinks that women should stay in abusive relationships I believe. What a nice guy….

Actually “The Hill Billy Elegy” was a best seller in 2016. I’d forgotten I’d got it on my kindle from Amazon. Just rereading it. It is a page turner. Vance is a very good communicator. Still. despite really poor start in life he got to Yale university.
Now, Trump’s running mate.

Well now Trump has nominated JD Vance as his running mate, I think its a clever political appointment. I think the Democrats will be joining the Tories to wander the opposition wasteland for a long time.

‘What did he do that was so dreadful last time he was President? The worst thing,to me, was his behaviour when he lost the Presidency and wouldn’t accept it’.
That was bad enough to prevent him for standing for president ever again. People died in the insurrection, which was instigated and supported by Trump.

Trump very much appeals to emotional feelings of patriotism. If you are American and not happy with the way things are going you would listen to him and probably support him. He is totally confident that he will be the next President. He is a good speaker, far ,far better than Biden. He avoided speaking of anything controversial, just how he will ‘make America great again’ . He didn’t particularly attack Biden, he didn’t need to. Definitely appealed to the Baptists and spoke as a believer.
What did he do that was so dreadful last time he was President? The worst thing,to me, was his behaviour when he lost the Presidency and wouldn’t accept it.

I am in definite agreement that it is time that Biden step down.

What concerns me, is who would be the best Democratic representative to win the election for the Usa ?

There are several Governors of various states that had been mentioned in an article in The Guardian. From recollection, one is the California Governor ( the largest population in The Usa and a democratic state ) and also Pennsylvania and if I recall Wisconsin ..

Though Kamila is very good with womens matters and education etcetra, she may not be able to battle it out with Trump ..

This is challenging for sure.

Rekarie

Far too hasty there with the post button

There's evidence of Biden doing and saying many odd things. The press will always print Trump's comments but Biden gets away with it.

His comments at a dance competition. The girls were about 14 and he was very inappropriate. Telling the girls he'd be back in 4 years time. Very strange . Hair sniffing is also available on YouTube .

They are both unsavoury and far too old.

But I'd not worry if Trump did win. It's really not such a catastrophe. However we seem to enjoy getting in a tizz so carry on regardless

Biden has always had a habit of putting his foot in his mouth and that is much documented .
The comment with the 14 year old girl is FALSE . The mother had digitally altered the tape . You can check that out on Reuters .

It would be a catastrophe if Trump were voted in on so many levels . He has already picked Vance as VP. He is one of the authors of Project 2025.

Yes, it does seem that way, LizzieDrip. (depend on stepping down). If he steps done after the convention however the process is a bit easier in replacing him as it's done within guidelines basically a committee process.

Dont know on the funding front.

I think the main problem seems to be party funding?

Wyllow thanks for the Politico link.

Having read the article, whilst it explains how a new Democrat candidate would / could be selected, this does seem to still be predicated on Biden stepping down.

Can the Democrats, at their convention, actually stand another candidate against Biden and, in effect, vote him out that way? I can’t get that from the article

nanna8

I listened to part of Trump’s long acceptance speech thoughI couldn’t last the distance and listen to all of it. With all his support now I think he will get in unless the Democrats come up with someone really good. They are short on time,though. If Biden continues to stand I think I would prefer Trump if I was an American. If Biden gets in again the real people manipulating things behind the scenes are an unknown quantity. Better the devil you know.

So, what did he say other than being nasty about Biden and Pelosi, and rambling on about Hannibal Lecter ( I mean, what on earth was that all about???). It was at Boris Johnson Peppa Pig level.

nanna8

I listened to part of Trump’s long acceptance speech thoughI couldn’t last the distance and listen to all of it. With all his support now I think he will get in unless the Democrats come up with someone really good. They are short on time,though. If Biden continues to stand I think I would prefer Trump if I was an American. If Biden gets in again the real people manipulating things behind the scenes are an unknown quantity. Better the devil you know.

No American that voted for Biden wants Trump ! He is an incredibly dangerous man . You might want to read more about Project 2025 . Did you mean Trump when you said the real people behind the scenes ? Biden has a good team and they have accomplished a lot of good things that I as an American value .

Better the devil you know

nanna IMO this is never a route to follow, even in everyday life, let alone something as important as the election of the POTUS!

I listened to part of Trump’s long acceptance speech thoughI couldn’t last the distance and listen to all of it. With all his support now I think he will get in unless the Democrats come up with someone really good. They are short on time,though. If Biden continues to stand I think I would prefer Trump if I was an American. If Biden gets in again the real people manipulating things behind the scenes are an unknown quantity. Better the devil you know.

ah, this is what I've been looking for after reading bits and bobs

headlines

"Democrats’ Foremost Expert on Party Rules Explains How Biden Could Be Replaced
Here’s what would happen at the convention."

reference

www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/07/13/how-biden-could-be-replaced-at-democratic-convention-00167907

now directly

Many democrat fund raisers are not directly threatening Biden that if he does not stand down they are going to withdraw campaign funding.