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Biden to stand down?

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Wyllow3 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:11:03

There's a clutch of headlines which hopefully indicate Biden my at last be re considering.

D Telegraph
"Biden’s supporters plot to fast-track nomination
Push to use ‘virtual’ vote to confirm president’s candidacy comes as he mistakes gender of his Secret Service chief"

Guardian "Joe Biden says he'd step down as presidential candidate if a 'medical condition emerged"

CNN "President Joe Biden is reportedly mulling a decision to step aside from the 2024 presidential race as a new poll has deepened a dilemma involving Vice President Kamala Harris.

On Wednesday evening, CNN's Jeff Zeleny reported that a senior Democratic adviser has said that the president, who was diagnosed with COVID earlier in the day, has become "more receptive" to calls for him to step down."

Hoping, as the USA needs a president who will actually engage with the world and the many more moderate voices in the USA.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:14:30

Oh I do hope so. Biden has been a good man, but I would hate to think that he would put himself before the country though.

I do hope that they don’t choose Harris though. I think that she is a none starter.

MissInterpreted Thu 18-Jul-24 13:15:54

I would hope so. I would echo what Whitewavemark2 has said and hope that he would be man enough to put the country before himself. It's become painfully clear that he simply isn't up to the task any more.

grandtanteJE65 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:16:46

I agree that Biden has started sounding too old and vague, but as long as Trump is not standing down, I cannot view the disappearance of Biden or anyone else with joy!

In my candid opinion if there is an age limit (and there is) on how old a cardinal may be when voted Pope, why on earth is there no age limits on how old a president or prime minister may be?

welbeck Thu 18-Jul-24 13:17:00

well his advisors don't seem the best either.
he travelled home to delaware to isolate but neither he not his surrounders were wearing masks.
the optics alone are not being well managed.
i feel sorry for him.
and for america.

mabon1 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:19:20

An old narcissist.

Visgir1 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:35:28

I think he should go now and let his Vice President take over.
Give her a chance and hopefully she will get the publicity not Trump?

I heard on the radio yesterday, someone commented, Trump survived a bullet but it got Biden.

Wyllow3 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:45:35

Here are possible alternatives

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80ekdwk9zro

(pix, descriptions, experience)

I wish the democrats all the very best to keep Trump out.

I'd reserve the word narcissist for Trump, but do think Biden suffers from pride and maybe fear of losses that we all experience getting old maybe particularly men who are used to being very powerful.

Wyllow3 Thu 18-Jul-24 13:46:45

Wise to wait for the end of the Republican Conference to bring to the forefront of news?

sassysaysso Thu 18-Jul-24 14:00:53

Biden should step down but I don't think Harris has the stomach for a fight against Trump. Remember the menace, aggression and dirty tricks he used against Hillary Clinton?

Wyllow3 Thu 18-Jul-24 14:08:14

Oh, every nasty trick in the book will be used and $$$$$ spent. Look at the funding Trump has from Elon Musk alone.

"Elon Musk reportedly plans to give $45m a month to pro-Trump Super Pac
Tech billionaire to donate extraordinary monthly sum to group focused on helping Trump win election"

Is the USA already a plutocracy?

Cossy Thu 18-Jul-24 14:19:27

It’s an awful and scary situation!

nanaK54 Thu 18-Jul-24 14:41:53

I do so hope that he does stand down. I wish him nothing but the best but this situation surely cannot be allowed to continue.

Galaxy Thu 18-Jul-24 14:47:21

It will make very little difference but I hope so as it is unspeakably cruel.

MissInterpreted Thu 18-Jul-24 16:10:33

grandtanteJE65

I agree that Biden has started sounding too old and vague, but as long as Trump is not standing down, I cannot view the disappearance of Biden or anyone else with joy!

In my candid opinion if there is an age limit (and there is) on how old a cardinal may be when voted Pope, why on earth is there no age limits on how old a president or prime minister may be?

Totally agree with you there. There should be some kind of age limit, especially when you are talking about one of the most important roles in the entire world.

J52 Thu 18-Jul-24 16:26:13

I hope he retires while he still has some dignity. It would be awful to see a man with a strong political past crumble in public.

Witzend Thu 18-Jul-24 16:35:16

Let’s hope that’ll allow him to step back without losing face.
How effective his replacement will be I have no idea though.

Rekarie Thu 18-Jul-24 16:49:24

He does need to go. They won't win with him standing.

Apparently many tech companies, along with Elon Musk, are now supporting Trump with vast sums of money.

No idea what will happen but if Kamala stands I don't hold out much hope for her.

Jaxjacky Thu 18-Jul-24 16:58:32

I hope does, for his own sake, but I think it’s a given that Trump will win sadly.

varian Thu 18-Jul-24 18:04:10

I wish he would stand down now, allowing Kamala to be POTUS for six months before the election, and have the advantage of incumbency. Presumably she could be bolstered by an attractive younger candidate who could balance the ticket and be seen as a successor.

The Democrats need to talk about the great record of the Biden/Harris regime, particularly on the economy. Trump is constantly allowed to get away with lying when in fact the USA has done so much better since 2020 than it did under his disastrous presidency.

Wyllow3 Thu 18-Jul-24 18:56:21

varian

I wish he would stand down now, allowing Kamala to be POTUS for six months before the election, and have the advantage of incumbency. Presumably she could be bolstered by an attractive younger candidate who could balance the ticket and be seen as a successor.

The Democrats need to talk about the great record of the Biden/Harris regime, particularly on the economy. Trump is constantly allowed to get away with lying when in fact the USA has done so much better since 2020 than it did under his disastrous presidency.

Well put. I hope the democrats find the funding to point out what you have.

NotSpaghetti Thu 18-Jul-24 20:58:16

I think that he can now safely say “the after effects of Covid mean I’m no longer advised to stand.”
Now he can call in his doctor to give him a reason.
🙏🤞

Allsorts Thu 18-Jul-24 21:01:23

If he was interested in his party winning, he would stand down, I fear he’s listening to people that don't care for him.

Cabbie21 Thu 18-Jul-24 21:05:07

I’m hoping that having Covid might be the trigger needed to help him realise he should step down, and that a different person will be the new candidate, not Kamala.

Wyllow3 Thu 18-Jul-24 21:19:06

NotSpaghetti

I think that he can now safely say “the after effects of Covid mean I’m no longer advised to stand.”
Now he can call in his doctor to give him a reason.
🙏🤞

Yes, hopefully.