Extinction Rebellion founder jailed for five years!

Thank you to the ladies who have given me the correct form of the past tense of the verb to plead. I thought it was pleaded, but we do hear pled, and to my ears, both sound a bit odd.
And thank you Wyllow for giving us the offences that the defendants were charged with in both instances. As I thought, the offences were different and therefore attract different sentences.

Here are the judge’s sentencing comments. After reading the detail of the offences, the consequences of the defendants’ actions and their criminal histories, does anyone here still think the sentences were too harsh?

Sorry, forgot link.
www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/R-v-Hallam-and-others.pdf

Rosie51 the protesters at the oil terminal I mentioned earlier were trying to stop the tankers leaving for their deliveries.
All the supermarkets have tankers based here, so that would have had widespread consequences.

I drove by this afternoon and took this photo.
There is now a high court injunction in place with the warning that protesters may face a prison sentence.

I bet that won’t stop the protesters. They have no regard for the law and are happy to be imprisoned as martyrs.

I’ve read the judgement, thank you GSM.
I think they deserve the sentences that they received.
I’m sure Starmer will be relieved that they are out of the way at the beginning of his tenure at number ten. Disruption on that scale is something he won’t want to be dealing with at this stage.

Thanks for the link GSM. It highlights the reason for the prison sentences clearly.

Thank you GSM they claim to be peaceful bah

Thanks for the link GSM. I appreciate reading Judgements, they’re so thorough, measured and help us understand how forensic the consideration of the evidence is,

Well done the Sun - that’s a comment I never expected to make. Excellent investigative journalism

Good outcome! Can anyone tell me why sentences given are reduced to less than half. Give a realistic sentence in the first place and keep to it, could understand knocking 6/9 months off for good behaviour but no more. Make prisons safe, not have access to drugs, if found with them or they are violent add time on, cooped up doing nothing, how is that helping?
Perhaps these people won’t repeat this behaviour in the future.

I have mixed feelings. I’d like them properly penalised, I’m not sure prison is the answer. I think they’ll simply become “martyrs” to their cause.

Prison costs a lot of money.

I’m more in favour of reparation.

There are unforeseen consequences to a prison sentence: difficulty with insurances, job applications, access to children, banking facilities, which have a much greater impact after the self-righteous glow of 'martyrdom' has worn off.

Yay! Now to throw away the key......

eazybee

There are unforeseen consequences to a prison sentence: difficulty with insurances, job applications, access to children, banking facilities, which have a much greater impact after the self-righteous glow of 'martyrdom' has worn off.

You’re right, but either they:
-didn’t think they’d get a prison sentence
-aren’t aware of the impacts a custodial sentence may carry
-will decide their next campaign will be to stop discrimination against people with a prison record
Who knows?
I didn’t realise two protestors had already been jailed.

I'd like to see Chris Packham in the government.

I'd like to see Chris Packham in court!

flappergirl

I'd like to see Chris Packham in the government.

God help farming if that ever happened.

Great stuff 👍🏻

Excellent news. However, make them pay for their own upkeep! Why should the tax payer have to pay for this 'lot'?

love0c

Excellent news. However, make them pay for their own upkeep! Why should the tax payer have to pay for this 'lot'?

Because they’ve lost their liberty, they’ll serve long sentences. This is a democratic country -

Meanwhile, a man who slashed his gf with a knife and beat her up gets a suspended sentence, a woman guilty of causing death by dangerous driving gets 6 months. I hope you are happy with the sentencing regime in the U.K. which obviously sees cars as more important than people and I’m glad you think climate change and the extinction of species has nothing to do with human activity as you can then sleep easy.

vegansrock no one on here (that I have seen) is denying climate change, no doubt most of us are doing whatever we can to mitigate our carbon footprint etc.

These were not peaceful protestors they were the cause of much chaos, leading to millions of £’s lost, hospital appointments missed, people unable to pay their last respects at funerals etc.

Those who suffered and/or were inconvenienced by these actions in all probability do whatever they can to save the planet already.

Who has said that climate change has nothing to do with human activity?

It has been pointed out how judgements are made and the entire judgement was posted for us all to read so that we can see the reasoning of the judge.

No one has said anything about climate change that I can remember.

GrannyGravy

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vegansrock

Meanwhile, a man who slashed his gf with a knife and beat her up gets a suspended sentence, a woman guilty of causing death by dangerous driving gets 6 months. I hope you are happy with the sentencing regime in the U.K. which obviously sees cars as more important than people and I’m glad you think climate change and the extinction of species has nothing to do with human activity as you can then sleep easy.

vegansrock
I’ve RTWT, but I can’t find where anyone has said they
are happy with the sentencing regime in the U.K. which obviously sees cars as more important than people

Or that they
think climate change and the extinction of species has nothing to do with human activity

I thought we were aiming to put fewer people in prison for non-violent crimes, but when I read the judge’s reasons for giving the prison sentences it made more sense.

The Just Stop Oil protestors were planning something which they knew had the potential to cause loss of life now.

Does that make them better people?