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Above inflation pay rises for teachers and NHS staff?

(63 Posts)
mabon1 Sun 21-Jul-24 12:43:31

A Tory MP was heard saying on Rdio 4 on Friiday, "The NHS needs more money" that's rich coming from a government of 14 years.

eazybee Sun 21-Jul-24 12:40:56

It is well deserved, considering what they did during Covid, but being cynical I am wondering what strings are attached for teachers.
Cleaning children's teeth, running before and afterschool clubs, (free child minding), compulsory dinner duty?
All suggestions pre-election.
I have no idea about the NHS but am sure it will involve longer hours and more responsibility.

Mollygo Sun 21-Jul-24 12:05:41

Upping the pay for teachers and NHS staff-great idea! The sooner the better, especially with the introduction of a new NC.

Joseann Sun 21-Jul-24 12:04:56

The 5.5% pay rise for teachers is probably long overdue. I am in favour.

From a selfish point of view, however, I think this will cause an added problem for independent schools, who will now have that to contend with that on top of the VAT on education. Historically the pay rises awarded to teachers at private schools were just above those in state schools. This new leap will cost heavily for them to match it.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 21-Jul-24 12:01:20

As far as the doctors are concerned, yes, it is about pay but also about working conditions, and this is also being resolved by Streeting. So there will be a build up of goodwill, which helps.

MaizieD Sun 21-Jul-24 11:52:21

The public need to realise that if they want good public services, those services aren’t free. We have to pay for them.

We don't have to pay for them. This is what I| have been banging on about for so long now.

Government spends before it taxes. It isn't financed by taxation. Taxation's main purpose is to control the amount of money there is in the economy in order to prevent demand led inflation.

Increasing the money in circulation by increasing public sector pay will increase general economic activity as the workers spend their additional money into the domestic economy.

The government will recover much of the money through taxation, i.e. by taxation of the workers' extra income and taxation of the economic activity this extra income promotes.

maddyone Sun 21-Jul-24 11:46:11

I agree with Urmstongran.
The junior doctors were treated appallingly by the last government, and I’m hoping for change.

Urmstongran Sun 21-Jul-24 11:42:13

I think they’re more likely to get a settlement with Labour maddyone. Let’s hope their dispute ends soon so waiting lists don’t keep being added to.

maddyone Sun 21-Jul-24 11:37:23

I hope this happens. The public need to realise that if they want good public services, those services aren’t free. We have to pay for them. The private sector salary rises have apparently been running at about 5% and there is no reason at all for public sector workers to be expected to settle for less than the rest of the workforce.

I don’t think the junior doctors will settle for 5% though, and nor should they. Their pay has been devalued by 35% over the 10-14 years, and they deserve for those losses to be rectified, probably over a number of years though.

silverlining48 Sun 21-Jul-24 11:24:57

I hope it happens too, it’s about time. There were ten full years when my dd didn’t get a payrise in the nhs. . Otherwise more strikes and even more people will leave public sector …and where would we be then.

GrannyIvy Sun 21-Jul-24 11:22:13

Yes both my daughters too!

Urmstongran Sun 21-Jul-24 11:21:09

Well our youngest daughter will be pleased!

MaizieD Sun 21-Jul-24 11:15:29

I'm seeing it reported that Reeves may be considering 5% pay rises for some public sector workers

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c0w43zvrq1pt

I hope that this does happen. It would put some much needed money into the economy to contribute to this 'growth' that Labour desperately needs and might not only retain employees who may be considering leaving the sector, but also tempt back some who have already left.

(It would bolster my weak confidence in the economic competence of Labour, too 😆)