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Rachel Reeves has announced that winter fuel payments will only be paid to those on Pension Credit.nsion Credit

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M0nica Mon 29-Jul-24 15:57:00

We will lose the benefit and that is fine by us. I think older people, especially those like us who are comfortably off, should be expected to make a contribution to sorting out the country's economic situation.

ronib Mon 05-Aug-24 10:06:53

Dickens in complete agreement with Jeremy Corbyn. Although does he know how we get out of this mess? Or are we stuck with what 20 percent of voters gave us for the next 5 years? I think stuck … well and truly stuck.

Hippie20 Mon 05-Aug-24 09:58:26

Disgraceful

Dickens Sun 04-Aug-24 11:35:50

Farzanah

MaizieD

I expected better of her.

I'm sad to have to say that I hoped for better from her, Callistemon, but my expectations were not high.

This is just the moment at which Labour could have been economically bolder...

I completely agree. Growth won’t happen by cutting, as she seems determined to do to ? close the imaginary “black hole”.
Get well soon. My OH has had THRs of both hips and can walk 8 - 9 miles with his walking group and manage stiles too.

She's following a well-worn path isn't she?

Inevitably, so will the economy.

I'm not usually prone to quoting Jeremy Corbyn's observations, but I think he has a point in this one:

The general election did not allow for the full expression of people power. Rather, we saw a rejection of the political establishment, leading to a loveless landslide; this election saw the second-lowest turnout since 1918 and the smallest combined vote share for the two main parties since 1945.

... and certainly on this - though I think his thoughts and the electorate's run along separate lines. But the principle is correct;

Public discontent with a broken political system will only grow as the government fails to make the real change that people expect.

Farzanah Sat 03-Aug-24 18:20:33

MaizieD

^I expected better of her.^

I'm sad to have to say that I hoped for better from her, Callistemon, but my expectations were not high.

This is just the moment at which Labour could have been economically bolder...

I completely agree. Growth won’t happen by cutting, as she seems determined to do to ? close the imaginary “black hole”.
Get well soon. My OH has had THRs of both hips and can walk 8 - 9 miles with his walking group and manage stiles too.

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 18:02:36

Thank you.

Mollygo Sat 03-Aug-24 16:44:00

Good wishes to Callistemon and Maizie for a speedy recovery.
Hope life is better once you’ve healed.

Norah Sat 03-Aug-24 14:47:35

Callistemon213

Yes, it's taking a while MaizieD
I hope the hip recovery will go well (and be quicker).

Did you have tkr? When?

It does take quite some time. I wasn't allowed to drive for 3 weeks.

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 13:01:42

Yes, it's taking a while MaizieD
I hope the hip recovery will go well (and be quicker).

MaizieD Sat 03-Aug-24 10:56:17

Callistemon213

westendgirl

Best wishes to Maisie and Callistemon for speedy healing .

Thank you 🙂

Thank you from me, too flowers

I didn't pick up about your knee, Callistemon, but I was a bit out of it yesterday.... I hope it's doing well, I know they can be tricky.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Aug-24 10:52:22

Well - I guess you might say that, but don’t forget that she was working with the previous governments plan, and was trying to mitigate against the fact that there was no money.

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 10:23:00

Whitewavemark2

MaizieD

I expected better of her.

I'm sad to have to say that I hoped for better from her, Callistemon, but my expectations were not high.

This is just the moment at which Labour could have been economically bolder...

Wait until the budget and spending review.

Then opinions will carry more weight.

The statement by Reeeves was addressing the current year

The statement by Reeeves was addressing the current year

Yes, it seems to be ill-thought out and hasty.

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 10:21:29

westendgirl

Best wishes to Maisie and Callistemon for speedy healing .

Thank you 🙂

Ilovecheese Sat 03-Aug-24 10:20:21

I expected her to do exactly as she has done. It has been obvious for years.

Esmay Sat 03-Aug-24 10:07:50

Grrr sent without finishing .

no heating .
I have for about a decade .
Your entire body seizes up and it's hard to sleep .

Esmay Sat 03-Aug-24 10:02:43

There are people who don't need the supplement and many who do .
I hope that we aren't going to get leaflets or TV slots on how to keep warm without adequate heating-wearing hats and scarves and drinking lots of tea and soup .
Perhaps , Rachel Reeves would like to spend a winter of having no heat

westendgirl Sat 03-Aug-24 09:52:56

Best wishes to Maisie and Callistemon for speedy healing .

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Aug-24 09:47:32

Good.

So am I

MaizieD Sat 03-Aug-24 09:42:29

Whitewavemark2

MaizieD

I expected better of her.

I'm sad to have to say that I hoped for better from her, Callistemon, but my expectations were not high.

This is just the moment at which Labour could have been economically bolder...

Wait until the budget and spending review.

Then opinions will carry more weight.

The statement by Reeeves was addressing the current year

😆😆😆

I knew you'd say that!

I'm waiting....

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Aug-24 09:38:33

MaizieD

^I expected better of her.^

I'm sad to have to say that I hoped for better from her, Callistemon, but my expectations were not high.

This is just the moment at which Labour could have been economically bolder...

Wait until the budget and spending review.

Then opinions will carry more weight.

The statement by Reeeves was addressing the current year

MaizieD Sat 03-Aug-24 09:14:51

I expected better of her.

I'm sad to have to say that I hoped for better from her, Callistemon, but my expectations were not high.

This is just the moment at which Labour could have been economically bolder...

ronib Sat 03-Aug-24 09:09:32

Is Rachael Reeves trying to stamp her authority over us in some bizarre way? What is planned for her October statement?
I imagine that WFA savings will be swallowed up by increased riot policing costs. Politics is after all the art of the unexpected.

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 08:56:20

Mollygo

Ilovecheese

Rachel Reeves has been waiting for years to be "tougher than the Tories on benefits". She likes to look tough, although I don't think looking tough on pensioners and small children in large families is admirable.

No but they’re an easy target.

I just find it incredible.

Does she think she's targeting wealthy pensioners, those Baby Boomers that younger generations like her supposedly dislike and resent?
Does she think this will make her popular with younger generations?

I think she's missed the mark with this.

As for refusing to lift the two child benefit cap for families with small children!
She told the BBC’s Sunday With Laura Kuenssberg: “It costs more than £3bn a year.

This well-heeled couple have no idea how many people live in this country. That sounds like the kind of remark one might make about a Tory.
I expected better of her.

BevSec Sat 03-Aug-24 06:42:04

Labour challenged the Tories not to cut the WFA many times. They are hypocrites and liars.

Mollygo Fri 02-Aug-24 20:59:42

Ilovecheese

Rachel Reeves has been waiting for years to be "tougher than the Tories on benefits". She likes to look tough, although I don't think looking tough on pensioners and small children in large families is admirable.

No but they’re an easy target.

Ilovecheese Fri 02-Aug-24 17:13:10

Rachel Reeves has been waiting for years to be "tougher than the Tories on benefits". She likes to look tough, although I don't think looking tough on pensioners and small children in large families is admirable.