Riots in Southport

There is zero tolerance for violence snd disorder. Farage is wrong

tickingbird

I haven’t read all this thread as been too busy to catch up today but just seen a worrying video on Sky News of a female reporter having to be taken off air whilst reporting from Birmingham. She was being threatened and intimidated by Muslim thugs wearing masks. One made a gun motion, another rode up on a bike wearing a mask shouting something about Palestine or Gaza and making certain gestures. Very scary indeed as what I’m concerned about looks as if it’s starting - one community of thugs against another. It’s the innocents getting caught up in it. The police wouldn’t be able to stop it. It’s truly terrifying.

Is a masked man the same as a Muslim now?

Someone mentioned seeing women and children on the edge of the crowds perhaps they were unwittingly caught up in this

Yes, we would like to think this is the case, but at least one piece of footage that I saw was of a young woman, swinging arms with her daughter (about 8 to 10) walking along singing 'Pakis out'.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13709969/belfast-protest-racist-mother-daughter-video.html

A young girl about the age of those murdered.......it is truly beyond belief.

Dr Amir Khan GP

Wasn’t going to post this as can’t be doing with the inevitable comments, but some things are more important

Today my Muslim GP trainees were scared to do home visits to our vulnerable housebound patients for fear of their safety - but they put patients first and did them anyway

Information.

If this is allowed to continue, city and town centres will become no-go areas for ordinary people going about their business, their social activities. Businesses such as bars, restaurants will be forced to close as they ose money.

Someone mentioned seeing women and children on the edge of the crowds perhaps they were unwittingly caught up in this.

On the news this evening, people in Bristol trying to get to a wedding evening party were pushed back by police; a woman out for a meal sitting outside a hotel with her dog had to shelter underneath the table with rioters right by her, as she tried to undo her dog's lead. She was rescued by a passerby.

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

Whitewavemark2

I see there is footage of people now having their front door kicked in and being arrested by the police.

Just when they thought they’d got away with it.

This needs to be advertised far and wide, it will hopefully make one or two less willing to take part in far right thuggery.

A lawyer said this morning that they will be jailed for years not months.

We all know that a year means 6 months.

No we don’t.

That is just something you have put out there.

Come off it! It has been the case for decades that even life rarely means life. It was discussed thoroughly on the news in recent weeks.

It was also discussed fully that Labour wants to release prisoners early. Surely you cannot have missed that!

Quick reminder; Labour needs to release some prisoners early, not wants to. The previous administration left the prison estate overcrowded and effectively full. Surely you cannot have missed that

Report from reading far right influencers on SM.

They're warning each other to ditch phones, remove exif data and mask up...might have been sensible to do this before committing riot and disorder but hey...

known far right influencers are saying "don't target Mosques because we're not ready for that conflict... yet" - instead the emerging fantasy is of an economic boycott of taxi and food apps (because their workforce is minority) and a run on the banks...

lots of attempts to ass-cover by saying "I'm not advocating attacking X but if I did go I would mask up, beware of provocateurs" - which still counts as incitement....

.. noticeable uptick in cross posting of US white supremacist stuff, outright Nazi Germany content - so basically the Trumpian right has noticed this and wants to be in the channels...

. plus Death/rape threats against prominent individuals and politicians...together a widely shared list of target premises...

So basically, radicalised young white men are being pulled into the mind-scape of outright fascism, while the main influencers and fascist groups disavow responsibility and try to protect their ability to operate legally...

Strategically they know this has massively backfired for the overall project - to create an alliance of elite and mob including Reform, NatCons, GB News and TalkTV celebs... who are all running a mile from the violence.

Mason

The BBC I player newsfeed announced that workers from minority background should work in 2's, not alone, because of threats to individual muslims.

Its an interesting read as arrests have not reached nearly 400 and some have approved in court - one identified by his tattoos as he had a mask on.

today's news feed to flick through
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

and in it there's a young muslim woman who approached rioters bringing food

"After a week of demonstrations and violence, Lila Tamea feels vulnerable wearing her hijab in public.
Nevertheless, she made the decision to go to a Liverpool mosque on Friday, offering food to a group of protesters, saying the "best way to approach people on the other side is through establishing common ground".
"Small opportunities to engage in dialogue really make a huge difference," she tells BBC Asian Network.
She spoke with members of the crowd and says she found "very reasonable" people who were open to learning more about Islam.
"But I expressed to them, if you have genuine concerns and views this is not the way to do it. You're letting yourself down by associating with far-right, fascist individuals who want nothing but damage."
Lila says she had "more of a confrontational situation" with others."

Urmstongran

My opinion. Not unhinged. How rude.

This was a statement of 'facts', not an opinion at all. And yes, it did sound truly unhinged- as are so mamy things going around social media, stirring up hatred.

Reminds me of attacks at the time of Trump- highly orchestrated from far away.

Something truly scary and highly destructive is happening now.

Very low Sterling values are falling even farther down- and will seriously affect any possible recovery of the UK after all the destruction and massive debts caused by Tories, and in particular Truss and co. Making it even more difficult to repay debt, stop investors. Scuppering the country. VERY serious and troubling.

Anyone supporting this, condoning this or even 'excusing' it- are just traitors in my mind. I feel sick.

I haven’t read all this thread as been too busy to catch up today but just seen a worrying video on Sky News of a female reporter having to be taken off air whilst reporting from Birmingham. She was being threatened and intimidated by Muslim thugs wearing masks. One made a gun motion, another rode up on a bike wearing a mask shouting something about Palestine or Gaza and making certain gestures. Very scary indeed as what I’m concerned about looks as if it’s starting - one community of thugs against another. It’s the innocents getting caught up in it. The police wouldn’t be able to stop it. It’s truly terrifying.

I can never unread that.🤢

JaneJudge

Musk doesn't even live here and he certainly isn't an ordinary white person. Have you heard he is donating his sperm to work colleagues wtaf

Oh yuk, yuk, yuk.

Whitewavemark2

Quokka

Not just Farage sticking his oar in…Musk and Katie Hopkins too.

They too are ‘weird’?

Don’t forget Tommy Robinson, directing manoeuvres from Cyprus.

Two tier policing been taken up by the right, stirring up trouble, just when the police could do with all the support they can get.

And it was Musk that allowed Tommy Robinson back onto Twitter wasn’t it?

Musk is creating an Empire and he's the Emperor.

He's absolutely worshipped by a certain section of alpha males (or would-be alpha males). You cannot criticise him - I dared to once on a SM site and was 'reminded' (probably by said alpha males) that he was very, very, very rich and I most likely was nowhere near his league so, on that basis, should basically STFU.

When I asked for a logical reason why a very, very, very rich individual should not be held to account nor criticised, said males almost had an apoplectic fit.

His influence, Trump's, Farage, Tate - and all the others of their ilk are egocentrics or narcissists, or both. They thrive on having their egos stroked. They are all, to one degree or another, misogynists - yes, Farage, too. They really want women to get back into their box, kitchen or bedroom, whilst they hold court and attempt to rule the world, or their part of it, like Musk.

But all empires crumble ultimately, and Emperors get deposed. But no before they've done a lot of damage. Some of it irreversible.

Oh, and Vance - I'd forgotten about him. Watch out Trump, he's after your 'job'.

JaneJudge

Musk doesn't even live here and he certainly isn't an ordinary white person. Have you heard he is donating his sperm to work colleagues wtaf

I hadn’t heard that but that pushes him firmly into the weird category. OMG just imagine a Katie H x Musk love child!

Quokka

Not just Farage sticking his oar in…Musk and Katie Hopkins too.

They too are ‘weird’?

Don’t forget Tommy Robinson, directing manoeuvres from Cyprus.

Two tier policing been taken up by the right, stirring up trouble, just when the police could do with all the support they can get.

Musk doesn't even live here and he certainly isn't an ordinary white person. Have you heard he is donating his sperm to work colleagues wtaf

Not just Farage sticking his oar in…Musk and Katie Hopkins too.

They too are ‘weird’?

Urmstongran

My opinion. Not unhinged. How rude.

Then state that it’s your opinion only. You sounded like you were trying to speak for ‘ordinary white people’.

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(A safe link from the BBC website)

Muslim leaders and worshippers shared food and conversation with some of the more vocal protestors who were rioting outside the mosque in Liverpool.

Just a photo to relieve some of the stark images we've been seeing.

But a drop in the ocean.

Quokka

Mt61

I voted reform but no way on this earth would I support trouble makers like this, they want locking up.. I would say most people who lean towards the right are more fed up with all this illegal migration & worry for their own children/ grandchildren future- but they would not dream of attacking the police or anyone else

This saddens me. Did you not realise what they stood for?

Maybe not, several residents that I know of in our extra care housing facility put their cross in Reform as they didn't want to vote for Labour or Conservative. They had no idea what the Reform Party stands for. The mind boggles!

Urmstongran

Unless our political masters get a grip on mass immigration this problem ain't going away. This is happening in Germany, France, Holland, Denmark , Italy and Sweden. It’s not a small number of "hard right" as seems to be the narrative from Starmer and the BBC, Guardian and Ch.4 news. It’s a pan European issue.

I’m not sure if you’ve listened directly to what Starmer said Urmstongran, but he said quite clearly that the current riots were driven by the hard right, not that the hard right were the only ones rioting? He is correct if the initial media reports about the origin of the social media posts are correct, which until we hear any different presumably must be true.

Urmstongran

Ordinary white people who read that the RAF doesn't want "useless white men", whose children are taught at school that they have "white privilege" (now a Labour policy) - try telling that to a working class white man in Hartlepool, whose son is likely to receive a poor education, come last in the priority for entry to university because of his skin colour and sex, and face prejudice when applying for a job with any national institution. All of this developed under a Conservative government. It wasn't ordinary white people who chose to balkanise England, but the London 'elite' who for the most part don’t listen to them

What on earth are you going on about?

Iam64 hear, hear!