Riots in Southport

My nearest city is on the list too. I actually agree with Patel (not words I expected to say) I think parliament should be recalled.

I did try.
But I am not going to let ideas go unchallenged that I dont agree with, otherwise it becomes completely one sided and quite oppressive.

I'm sure it's true that in each place where there are riots there are disaffected locals joining in.

However, the riots are being highly organised on social media, invitations to join in various places put out by social media and the tone of the riots are racist in nature as they plan in advance to attack Mosques. They are attacking UK citizens simply because of race and encouraging others to do so.

They also claim they are "doing it for the children" (seen on banners and T shirts" which is horrifically offensive for the families in southport who have specifically asked for no violence.

My northern city is "on the list" for a future riot. In all, Hope not Hate (who keep a watch out on social media)

May I ask please give those of us affected space on this thread to stick to the O/P subject which is on the riots.

They dont want men on their dating apps, etc. They dont want to pretend men are women.
Men find being told no by women very tricky sometimes. Those lesbians are frightened because of the threats.

Galaxy

Yes the threats the violence all a bit esoteric.
And those silly lesbians if only they would be more inclusive of men.

So completely rejecting 50% of the earths human population is the way to go?

On a loser there I would have thought!

Whitewavemark2

Galaxy

It's not discord I just dont want to pretend, that's partly why we are where we are.
If I say it's all working brilliantly that wont make it true.
Sorry Pascal I am not sure this is the place, it will just turn into an arguement on that contenscious issue which wont help!.

Well I understand the issues.

There is a small group that entirely rejects men and their body parts, and therefore are unable to take part in Pride, but this not not include the vast majority of lesbians who are as inclusive as everyone else, celebrating difference.

All a bit esoteric tbh

I thought it was in June?
It was here.

Yes the threats the violence all a bit esoteric.
And those silly lesbians if only they would be more inclusive of men.

MayBee70

nanna8

To label every single one of those people as thugs is just plain ignorant. Many are ,as I have said a couple of times now, but others have GENUINE feelings of fear and resentment because they are disadvantaged and can’t see a way out of their situation. This black and white view and calling people Nazis is appalling and needs calling out. People are not rioting because they are happy.

Well, some of them are rioting because they want to break into shops and steal phones and alcohol. I suppose that will make them happy so that’s ok.

Some will be out there because they think it's an exciting thing to do.
Too much time, not enough purpose in life.

Urmstongran

Indeed.

😄😄

Indeed.

Galaxy

It's not discord I just dont want to pretend, that's partly why we are where we are.
If I say it's all working brilliantly that wont make it true.
Sorry Pascal I am not sure this is the place, it will just turn into an arguement on that contenscious issue which wont help!.

Well I understand the issues.

There is a small group that entirely rejects men and their body parts, and therefore are unable to take part in Pride, but this not not include the vast majority of lesbians who are as inclusive as everyone else, celebrating difference.

All a bit esoteric tbh

MayBee70

nanna8

To label every single one of those people as thugs is just plain ignorant. Many are ,as I have said a couple of times now, but others have GENUINE feelings of fear and resentment because they are disadvantaged and can’t see a way out of their situation. This black and white view and calling people Nazis is appalling and needs calling out. People are not rioting because they are happy.

Well, some of them are rioting because they want to break into shops and steal phones and alcohol. I suppose that will make them happy so that’s ok.

Both of these comments are true.🤷🏼‍♀️

nanna8

To label every single one of those people as thugs is just plain ignorant. Many are ,as I have said a couple of times now, but others have GENUINE feelings of fear and resentment because they are disadvantaged and can’t see a way out of their situation. This black and white view and calling people Nazis is appalling and needs calling out. People are not rioting because they are happy.

Well, some of them are rioting because they want to break into shops and steal phones and alcohol. I suppose that will make them happy so that’s ok.

To label every single one of those people as thugs is just plain ignorant. Many are ,as I have said a couple of times now, but others have GENUINE feelings of fear and resentment because they are disadvantaged and can’t see a way out of their situation. This black and white view and calling people Nazis is appalling and needs calling out. People are not rioting because they are happy.

Starmer is about to go on holiday.

The Far Right?
In Liverpool? The most Far Left district in England?
The media and Starmer are fooling no-one.

It's not discord I just dont want to pretend, that's partly why we are where we are.
If I say it's all working brilliantly that wont make it true.
Sorry Pascal I am not sure this is the place, it will just turn into an arguement on that contenscious issue which wont help!.

Where there is harmony -seek discord

Not for me I’m afraid.

I am incensed by the rioting and also that inevitably it reached our nearest city centre Hull yesterday. It coincided with an annual music festival in another area of the city. The riots caused all transport in and out to be cancelled. Pleasant day out ruined by mindless scum.
Local radio this morning are reporting many members of the public are voluntarily helping with the cleaning up. It’s a sign of hope. Such decent people around.

Galaxy

Yes but many lesbians who don't feel welcome as you must know if you know the community. Many who have been threatened again you must know that. The world isnt simply the goodies and the baddies, lovely if it was just like a Mary Poppins film in fact.

I'm afraid I don't know what you are talking about Galaxy.. I just paint and draw with other people, including lesbians and we don't really talk much.. perhaps you could explain further..

I simply can’t believe the comments - I introduce an example of how people can live together in peace and harmony despite their many differences and it is immediately crushed.

Your misery knows no bounds😄😄

pascal30 understands and points out how inclusivity helps communities to thrive and live peacefully.

Yes it is expensive, yes people on minimum income are struggling - far more than many areas up north because the cost of living is much higher, but they don’t buy into the great lie of immigration causing their struggle.

In fact asylum seekers find a welcome here - as friends of mine can testify who help run a charity doing just that.

So we can live a different way of life - and if you wish to describe it as Mary Poppins - so be it. At least we aren’t rioting.

Maybe it wasnt political point scoring, maybe its pretending that complex issues can be reduced to goodies and baddies. I think that will make things worse to be honest. Not that what is said on here matters in the great scheme of things but I worry that the government is going to look at it that way too.

I didn't see the comment was about political point scoring at all. I thought it was more about human nature in general. But what do I know?

Yes but many lesbians who don't feel welcome as you must know if you know the community. Many who have been threatened again you must know that. The world isnt simply the goodies and the baddies, lovely if it was just like a Mary Poppins film in fact.

Galaxy

I know many many lesbians who dont feel welcome at pride, sorry but people are using 'communities of which they know nothing about to make political points.

I'm sorry to hear that Galaxy.. I only know lesbians through the art world down here and don't understand the politics otherwise..