Riots in Southport

JaneJudge

It isn’t brilliant though. It would best if we all didn’t get involved with these violent scum. We are all staying in.

Not in Brighton they aren’t.

They have turned up be the hundreds of thousands welcomed the racists with drag queens, samba bands, glitter and love, and entertainment by a band.

It seems to have worked - the positive vibes are completely defusing the situation.

It isn’t brilliant though. It would best if we all didn’t get involved with these violent scum. We are all staying in.

This is so the way to go.

Back to flower power!, remember that?

A friend jst posted about similar gatherings in Manchester- happily chanting 'there are more of us then there are you' - singing, dancing, laughing, smiling - true British values.

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

I don't 'like him' either.

Hearing of mass presence of those who want peace and unity, and fight fascism and racism, in places like Brighton- are certainly NOT counter productive. Just wonderful, let's hope the right wing will not be able to provoke a reaction.

Yes, I know. Brexit is a total disaster for GB, and mostly for workers and labourers of every kind. Can't ever forgive Lynch for this. And NO Allsorts, it has NOT made us free of Brussels at all- as we are dependent on EU for the majority or our imports and exports, even for essentials- which have all become so so much more expensive. What sort of freedom is this?

But, the speech by Lynch on the riots is brilliant, and I will not let the Brexit disaster in the way of supporting his stance here.

Unity, tolerance, humanity- are so so much more important- and he's got it right here.

Allsorts, Brexit was a total disaster. If the only negative was ‘a bit more paperwork for people with holiday homes’ we’d all be doing well

Joseann

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

Me neither.
Mick Lynch is indeed a good communicator and influential.
But I don't understand why he is being hailed as a Messiah on here when he was a actually a strong Brexiteer who encouraged all the RMT members to vote for Brexit too?

Yes, it's rather odd.

But then times like these may call for strange bedfellows
(Not that I'm suggesting any Gransnetter would get up to anything improper with Mick Lynch! )

One thing above all else I’m grateful for was Brexit . Pity about those with holiday homes that need more paperwork as it must be tedious but worth it as it means not held to account by Brussels.

Galaxy

I dont agree with him but I couldnt care less how he voted in the referendum.

It does to me because it makes me question his reasoning. I’m not sure that Brexit has helped his union members in any way.

I dont agree with him but I couldnt care less how he voted in the referendum.

Joseann

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

Me neither.
Mick Lynch is indeed a good communicator and influential.
But I don't understand why he is being hailed as a Messiah on here when he was a actually a strong Brexiteer who encouraged all the RMT members to vote for Brexit too?

He’ll undermine Starmers authority too given half a chance.

OK suit yourself. A rescuer, a saviour?
Poetic licence!

In the case of the riots, as of now, I don't think counter demonstrations are a bright idea. But if I was on the list they have put about which involve attacking private homes should the family stay away and let them be destroyed or would you want supportive people there?

I hope very much that Tommy Robinson can be amongst the charged as to incitement.

Joseann

Cadeby

Joseann

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

Me neither.
Mick Lynch is indeed a good communicator and influential.
But I don't understand why he is being hailed as a Messiah on here when he was a actually a strong Brexiteer who encouraged all the RMT members to vote for Brexit too?

Nobody is hailing him as a Messiah? He is articulate, that's a start.

Well, a previous poster was keen to copy 4 paragraphs from his speech!

Quite a leap from copied speech to Messiah.

Yes, the Gurdwara is Sikh!

Cadeby

Joseann

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

Me neither.
Mick Lynch is indeed a good communicator and influential.
But I don't understand why he is being hailed as a Messiah on here when he was a actually a strong Brexiteer who encouraged all the RMT members to vote for Brexit too?

Nobody is hailing him as a Messiah? He is articulate, that's a start.

Well, a previous poster was keen to copy 4 paragraphs from his speech!

Joseann

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

Me neither.
Mick Lynch is indeed a good communicator and influential.
But I don't understand why he is being hailed as a Messiah on here when he was a actually a strong Brexiteer who encouraged all the RMT members to vote for Brexit too?

Nobody is hailing him as a Messiah? He is articulate, that's a start.

Oreo

JaneJudge

I wouldn't want to do that tonight though and our council has advised against any involvement from our community. I have been into town today and there was a noticeable police presence but they are not marching in central town. They are apparently marching by the gurdwara

That’s the Sikh community tho🤔

Any brown person is sufficient.

The EDL is coming to my town tonight. Marching through one of the areas where many Muslims live, there’s a mosque and several business run by families of ‘Muslim faith.
It's appalling.
The same is happening in my area of East London which is such a diverse multicultural area.

The EDL is coming to my town tonight. Marching through one of the areas where many Muslims live, there’s a mosque and several business run by families of ‘Muslim faith

Police riot vans ready. Senior police asking for there to be no counter demonstrations. We have a strong anti fascist group and I expect some will feel duty bound to show up to oppose the EDL. I will stay away, as I’m sure will most, despite our loathing of these people with their disgusting belief systems

MayBee70

Any counter protests are just counter productive. I don’t like Mick Lynch.

Me neither.
Mick Lynch is indeed a good communicator and influential.
But I don't understand why he is being hailed as a Messiah on here when he was a actually a strong Brexiteer who encouraged all the RMT members to vote for Brexit too?

JaneJudge

I wouldn't want to do that tonight though and our council has advised against any involvement from our community. I have been into town today and there was a noticeable police presence but they are not marching in central town. They are apparently marching by the gurdwara

That’s the Sikh community tho🤔

I don’t think that we or the Police want running battles between two different groups, it makes policing even harder.
It’s to be hoped that the fast sentencing of offenders dampens any far right spirit, and if it doesn’t it might do for those who just want to do a bit of light looting or watching.

It's certainly not what is being advised by my local authority employers.