Boxer forces female competitor to quit at the Olympic games [Title edited by GNHQ at poster's request]

I think you are missing many points here Jackiest. Why not read through all the posts.

Imane Khelif considers herself a woman and rightly or wrongly the Olympic committee also thought she was a woman. If JK Rowling disagreed she should have taken her argument up with the Olympic Committee as they were the people who decide to let her box as a female. She should not have been very insulting to Imane Khelif.

Yes she has been discussing womens spaces for years, she has been a vital support for women particularly in relation to domestic violence.

Yes, I did, JK Rowling was already debating on the subject and got a lot of stick for doing so, but credit to her, she wouldn't back down.

J K Rowling is on X formerly Twitter. Brave woman with thousands of followers.

Also check the likes and reposts. She's obviously well supported around the world.

Oh yes she certainly did. I attach just one of her many tweets about this.
She has very deep pockets and will certainly stand up to being sued.

Chocolatelovinggran

WWM - did JK Rowling enter into the debate regarding this boxer? I don't recall hearing this - did anyone else?

I’ve no idea - but that is what I either heard on the news or read. Other names were mentioned besides JK Rowling.

WWM - did JK Rowling enter into the debate regarding this boxer? I don't recall hearing this - did anyone else?

Actually I am not sure it's that simple as not to do with trans. People with dsds have been used continually by TRAs as an example of 'you see sex is not binary', its partly why trans activists have fought so hard over this boxer. So no this boxer absolutely isnt trans, but I think the debates around this issue coincide or certainly have been engineered to coincide.

Yes I do realise that the two boxers were not trans. I feel to be fair to the other boxers they should have taken the test to see if they had an unfair advantage by having a high level of the male chromosome.

I thought some of the posters would be interested to hear the programme on the radio.

The boxer under question is to sue various individuals for amongst other things - bullying. Rowling was mentioned.

But we aren’t talking about TRANS at all
The Algerian boxer had nothing to do with trans
There seems to be a lot of muddling up on this thread this is about someone who had tetrostrone levels that were unusual nothing todo with Trans
Of course trans should have their own catergory in all sports

This ISNT a trans problem

Thanks Sparkle and Yogi for your agreement. It seems like common sense to me.

One of my closest friend’s son is now her daughter. He transitioned in his mid 40s. To be honest she does not appear to have been brought the happiness she hoped for. I can’t discuss the subject with my friend as quite rightly she tries to be supportive of her new daughter. The two grandchildren call their parent by her new name not dad. How very difficult for them.

Yes I agree too NanKate

I agree NanKate - they should have their own category. I don't know why the trans community are not putting their activism into pushing for this.

Sharon Davies was saying that biological facts can’t be changed. She is very knowledgeable and explained that she didn’t want to stop trans people competing in sport but not to the detriment of women. They should have there own category or join open category sports.

What did Sharon Davis say?

I listened to the BBC radio 4 discussion with Sharon Davies and a transwoman activist Charlie Martin. Worth listening to. However Charlie made countless statements which seemed very alien to me. She just seemed unable to see that young women were being disadvantaged.

Well yes Smiles they were trying to be diplomatic & putting it in a nut shell, but for the female boxers it must have been devastating, 4 years of hard work down the drain!

Tests are available Jackiest.

Look at this again. It explains all the possible variations and all are clearly male or female.

Unfortunately virtually 100% of people is not good enough when it comes to something like the Olympics where only a few people out of the whole world population are taking part and a sport where size and strength are critical. We need to define exactly what is meant by woman and define a test that is to be used. As we have seen biological sex can be a bit woolly at times.

Your final paragraph in your post @ 15.58 sums it up perfectly Rosie.

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