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GENUINE QUESTION : HARRY AND MEGHAN

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vickymeldrew Thu 01-Aug-24 16:20:49

I have just read that Harry & Meghan are planning to visit Columbia later this month for 3/4 days.
Could someone explain why they would be safe in Columbia, but not in the UK ?
Ditto, Nigeria.

VioletSky Thu 01-Aug-24 17:15:05

Anniebach

The Operah interview was on a social media site ? I think you
are mistaken

No we aren't, Social media is where lies fly around the world before the truth has it's boots on

Anniebach Thu 01-Aug-24 17:21:22

Oprah was on social media!

Smileless2012 Thu 01-Aug-24 17:25:28

They announce what they're doing so everyone knows about it. They must know some will criticise so if they don't want criticism, don't make the announcement.

eazybee Thu 01-Aug-24 17:26:41

Why should she need armed protection?
Very few people in the UK have armed protection.
Is Meghan Markle deemed more important?

vegansrock Thu 01-Aug-24 18:18:18

They are definite targets as are a lot of people in the public eye. It only takes one deranged individual.

eazybee Thu 01-Aug-24 18:58:58

And three little girls?
Two university students and a caretaker?
An army colonel?
Lee Rigby?
James Bulger?
To name a very few.
Meghan Markle is less at risk than hundreds of ordinary individuals who have been brutally murdered.
She is not a British citizen; she chooses not to be a member of the Royal Family; she does nothing for this country but attempts to sow discord; thus she is not eligible for any special protection.

Cossy Thu 01-Aug-24 20:55:43

BlueBelle

I don’t think the Queen spent very much time with her children when they were small
I m sure he’s a lot safer anywhere they don’t have all the haters over there that they do here
Good luck to them both
Vegansrock totally agree anything to poke the sleeping lion Nasty thread and why is it inbshouty capitals

I agree. If you don’t like them or care what they do, just stop reading about them. If our own and the USA media didn’t keep on and on and on reporting on them none of us would hear about them

Anniebach Thu 01-Aug-24 21:01:27

If you find criticism of them upsetting don’t read any criticism

vegansrock Thu 01-Aug-24 21:56:30

It’s a joke that no one thinks this couple need security - I guess you think none of the other royals should have security either as they aren’t at anymore risk than anyone else… strange logic.

Anniebach Thu 01-Aug-24 22:19:59

Working royals have security , the Sussex pair are not working
royals, same as Harry’s cousins

mabon1 Thu 01-Aug-24 22:23:52

I agree.

Callistemon213 Thu 01-Aug-24 22:54:36

vickymeldrew

As I said, it is a genuine question so I can understand this sticking point with the Riyal Family.
Years ago I recall going on a holiday visiting both Columbia and Nigeria and we warned of high crime rates and the necessity to stay close to established tourist areas.

They're quite far apart, was that on one holiday,
vickymeldrew?
I only know of two people who visited Columbia and that was years ago, both for work purposes. There were armed guards in the corridors of the hotels. The drugs cartels were in effect running the country, I'm not sure if it is better there now.
Kidnapping is still a threat

RosiesMaw2 Thu 01-Aug-24 23:03:48

It TBH why are we being “told” they are visiting Colombia?
Do we know where George and Amal Clooney are travelling to next? Or Gwyneth Paltrow? Or the Duke and Duchess of Westminster? Or even “minor” royals such as Zara and Mike Tindall (unless in an official capacity) ?
If H and M have truly stepped back from the RF, who cares?

Anniebach Thu 01-Aug-24 23:08:49

Our world is in turmoil, 3 tiny innocents murdered, riots caused by hatred on streets , a family must be suffering because
of the actions of a parent, children are being abused ,

Talking and criticising 2 self serving people is a relief

Syracute Thu 01-Aug-24 23:14:04

eazybee

Perfectly fair question.
Only last week Harry was bleating he could not bring his wife here to Birmingham for the Invictus Games because it would be unsafe for her.
But apparently safe in Columbia.
As long as they continue to complain, I will criticize.

They will have their own security who will be armed . He is not allowed armed security in the U.K. and that is his sticking point . I don’t blame him then as people are so obsessed with him and his family .

Syracute Thu 01-Aug-24 23:16:59

Anniebach

If you find criticism of them upsetting don’t read any criticism

Certain people are obssessed with H and M and as soon as any thread appears the usual suspects pop up with aggressive , nasty comments .

Bodach Thu 01-Aug-24 23:22:24

Why are so many people on this thread referring to Colombia as 'Columbia'?

VioletSky Thu 01-Aug-24 23:29:26

Because English is ridiculous probably and if you don't often type a word it is easy to misspell it

Anniebach Thu 01-Aug-24 23:39:25

Quote Syracute Thu 01-Aug-24 23:16:59
Anniebach
If you find criticism of them upsetting don’t read any criticism

Certain people are obssessed with H and M and as soon as any thread appears the usual suspects pop up with aggressive , nasty comments .

Certain people are so obsessed with H and M they attack any
justified criticism of them

Macadia Fri 02-Aug-24 00:24:14

Vickymeldrew, they are not going there for a family visit or a seaside holiday with children. This is strictly business. Same with Nigeria and Turkey. The Archewell Foundation raises awareness about cyberbullying and health issues. The foundation chooses to visit the most crime-ridden, dangerous places in the world with efforts to improve the lives of teens and children.

The founders chose to make efforts to do good in the world. I don't care who they are. (What is said about ^Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye?^) I have seen other things that are less newsworthy and can skip over news titles that I don't want to see.

vegansrock Fri 02-Aug-24 06:16:39

So “working royals” need security but “non working ones” don’t? So if the “working” ones aren’t “working”, say they are off sick or visiting their mates, then they go out without a carload of pp officers? ( answer: they don't). But if a royal relative has been the object of media and online hatred, personal slurs, death and rape threats, they don’t need security? Ex PM s get security as do some TV presenters who get threatened, but some people still feel H and M aren’t at any risk.

Callistemon213 Fri 02-Aug-24 08:11:22

VioletSky

Because English is ridiculous probably and if you don't often type a word it is easy to misspell it

Thank you.

I was one of those who misspelt it!
I apologise most sincerely to any Colombians who may be reading the thread.

I really should have known better, having prepared a considerable amount of work for my colleague who went there!

Callistemon213 Fri 02-Aug-24 08:17:38

I'd just like to add in mitigation that Columbia is the usual spelling for very many places around the world including place names and street names in the UK.
And in the OP.

No excuse of course.

Anniebach Fri 02-Aug-24 09:00:46

Quote vegansrock Fri 02-Aug-24 06:16:39
So “working royals” need security but “non working ones” don’t? So if the “working” ones aren’t “working”, say they are off sick or visiting their mates, then they go out without a carload of pp officers? ( answer: they don't). But if a royal relative has been the object of media and online hatred, personal slurs, death and rape threats, they don’t need security? Ex PM s get security as do some TV presenters who get threatened, but some people still feel H and M aren’t at any risk.

Add Zara and husband, Peter , Beatrice, Eugenie and husbands,
Louise and James

eazybee Fri 02-Aug-24 09:02:37

This country has no responsibility for Meghan Markle, as she has made painfully clear on many occasions.