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Isabel Oakeshott for Prime Minister

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Liz46 Fri 02-Aug-24 08:38:13

She talks such common sense. (I am looking for something to duck behind now!)

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 03-Aug-24 09:12:56

As I said upthread, Nicenanny , I think that those who state, unequivocally, that person A or B speak " common sense" and "the truth" usually mean that A or B agree with their views. It doesn't necessarily mean that the truth, or common sense, is being spoken, merely that it's common sense, or truth, as it is perceived by the supporter.

Nicenanny3 Sat 03-Aug-24 09:38:44

Chocolatelovinggran

As I said upthread, Nicenanny , I think that those who state, unequivocally, that person A or B speak " common sense" and "the truth" usually mean that A or B agree with their views. It doesn't necessarily mean that the truth, or common sense, is being spoken, merely that it's common sense, or truth, as it is perceived by the supporter.

Do you agree then with some of the twaddle and down right nasty posts on here against this journalist, some who don't appear to have even heard of her just joining in like sheep.

Fleurpepper Sat 03-Aug-24 11:11:59

Funny that Liz46 has not come back to the discussion, hey!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Aug-24 11:13:57

Fleurpepper

Funny that Liz46 has not come back to the discussion, hey!

She is probably Oakeshott 😄😄😄

Nicenanny3 Sat 03-Aug-24 11:17:54

Probably busy getting ready to sue for Defamation of Character.

Lollin Sat 03-Aug-24 11:24:43

For anyone who’s interested
dorseteye.com/for-those-who-care-about-morality-and-the-law-lets-look-closely-at-richard-tice-and-isabel-oakeshott/

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 12:05:21

Whitewavemark2

Fleurpepper

Funny that Liz46 has not come back to the discussion, hey!

She is probably Oakeshott 😄😄😄

Liz46 is a regular poster who has been posting for years on GN.

MayBee70 Sat 03-Aug-24 12:12:21

I’ve been aware of Oakshott for years as she’s a standing dish in political programmes. What she does do, which I dislike immensely and regardless of her political persuasion, is talk over people. For some reason Rory Stewart quite likes her but, then again he always says people like Patel and Braverman are very pleasant and polite if you speak to them.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 03-Aug-24 12:18:39

Nicenanny, you will see from my posts that I have been unfailingly courteous and respectful in my posts, in response to you and other posters. I have not referred to any posts - yours or any others- as " twaddle " , nor have I suggested that you, or anyone else are " sheep".
Why do you suggest such unpleasantness for me, when, and I repeat, my posts have been nothing but measured ?

Oreo Sat 03-Aug-24 12:38:45

Baggs

^You never judge a person by their sitting room manners for heavens sake!!^

Course you do!

Among other things.

The point GG's making though is that it's possible to "violently" disagree politically without being uncivilised.

And most people, even most gransnetters, are like that.

‘Sitting room manners’ made me laugh, like a line from
The Trouble With Earnest😁 so thank you for that Whitewavemark2
Well said Baggs as it sure does matter.I may agree more with Keir Starmer than Nigel Farage but if Keir was to put his feet up on my coffee table he’d be out the door.
As for anyone comparing Farage to Putin/ Stalin/Hitler just too too delicious my dear, as Oscar Wilde probably would have said.What is it with posters always comparing politicians that they don’t like to the greatest murderers of all time?
I completely get the point raised by GrannyGravy13 too👍🏻

Oreo Sat 03-Aug-24 12:40:56

I know who Isabel Oakeshott is as she’s a regular on political talk shows but why she should be made PM is a mystery.🤔

Fleurpepper Sat 03-Aug-24 12:42:25

The question is, why is Isobel Oakeshott invited so often on TV shows like Question Time, etc.? WHY?

Oreo Sat 03-Aug-24 12:49:04

She’s always prepared to go on them when asked? She’s articulate, keeps calm but can be guaranteed to be Marmite, which tv producers love.

Callistemon213 Sat 03-Aug-24 12:50:33

Oreo

She’s always prepared to go on them when asked? She’s articulate, keeps calm but can be guaranteed to be Marmite, which tv producers love.

Marmite ✔

Bland makes for boring TV.

MayBee70 Sat 03-Aug-24 12:53:39

Fleurpepper

The question is, why is Isobel Oakeshott invited so often on TV shows like Question Time, etc.? WHY?

I think it was mentioned by someone on a programme recently ( can’t remember which one). 24 hours rolling news means they’re always searching for people to interview and some make themselves readily available. I didn’t click on it but I just saw something on Facebook that seemed to show Farage fuelling all these riots on GB News, speaking with Union flag behind him. Can anyone tell me of anything he has said or done this past weeks to diffuse this volatile situation?

Nicenanny3 Sat 03-Aug-24 13:13:22

Chocolatelovinggran

Nicenanny, you will see from my posts that I have been unfailingly courteous and respectful in my posts, in response to you and other posters. I have not referred to any posts - yours or any others- as " twaddle " , nor have I suggested that you, or anyone else are " sheep".
Why do you suggest such unpleasantness for me, when, and I repeat, my posts have been nothing but measured ?

Sorry Chocolatelovinggran nothing personal, just me letting off steam. I apologise if I've unset you, I'm just so frustrated with all the problems in Britain at the moment and the government 💐 take care

Wyllow3 Sat 03-Aug-24 13:22:56

In that speech he "condemned the violence" (watched it) all very reasonsable etc

however he helped create it by repeating the "Asian migrant murderer" X rumour on X, and not taking it down or correcting it, when it was proved otherwise.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 03-Aug-24 13:27:34

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 03-Aug-24 13:29:05

Oops sorry wrong thread

GrannyGravy13 Sat 03-Aug-24 13:33:58

Have reported my post so hopefully it will be deleted, sorry folks 🙋‍♀️

varian Sat 03-Aug-24 15:10:21

"Question Time has long been accused of bias towards both the left and right – usually a good indication of balance.

But the overuse of rightwing guests, as identified in our analysis, supports some of these claims of a lack of impartiality. The regular appearances of panellists such as Isabel Oakeshott and Julia Hartley-Brewer – the two most frequent non-politician guests in our analysis – raise questions about how producers choose guests.

It is worth pointing out that there is nothing wrong with the BBC inviting guests from these organisations, nor is there anything wrong with political writers from The Spectator discussing the political issues of the day. However, the lack of counterbalancing narratives from leftwing publications is notable."

theconversation.com/bbc-question-time-analysis-of-guests-over-nine-years-suggests-an-overuse-of-rightwing-voices-232315

JudyBloom Sat 03-Aug-24 15:21:22

Hear hear! I totally agree with you Liz46, Isabel Oakeshott always speaks sense.

Fleurpepper Sat 03-Aug-24 18:34:07

Let's be fair about this, and remain civil.

Please could you give a few exemples of her 'speaking sense'. Thank you.

Cadeby Sat 03-Aug-24 18:59:29

JudyBloom

Hear hear! I totally agree with you Liz46, Isabel Oakeshott always speaks sense.

Any examples at all please?

MayBee70 Sat 03-Aug-24 19:11:45

Well, if we’re talking about people who talk sense can I put forward Christina Patterson who, if I had my way would be ruler of the world.