Paul Embery comments on Keir Starmer

Rekarie

There's an awful lot of clamour up and down the country. I'm very close to the tragedy and sadly now there is a lot of unease and potential rioting.

I must admit I was quite impressed with Starmers speech but there's a lot of people who are furious that it sounded as if he was only interested in saving and protecting mosques.

The issue we have is a lot of people ate unhappy with the amount of immigration. And the real issue is you can't say that or you'll be called bigoted or racist. So there's a large amount of people who are suffering but not getting much assistance.

I'm mixed race myself so please don't think me racist. I just think it's an important issue and people should be able to discuss without being classed as racist or far right.

Rekarie i know exactly what you mean. Sorry you are having to put up with this. i get called things like that on here but I know myself and I am none of those.

Same … and I certainly don’t regret it! Feel much better with Labour at the helm!

Nobody I know who voted Labour has suggested that they regret it

- nobody I know either, Doodledog

There's an awful lot of clamour up and down the country. I'm very close to the tragedy and sadly now there is a lot of unease and potential rioting.

I must admit I was quite impressed with Starmers speech but there's a lot of people who are furious that it sounded as if he was only interested in saving and protecting mosques.

The issue we have is a lot of people ate unhappy with the amount of immigration. And the real issue is you can't say that or you'll be called bigoted or racist. So there's a large amount of people who are suffering but not getting much assistance.

I'm mixed race myself so please don't think me racist. I just think it's an important issue and people should be able to discuss without being classed as racist or far right.

I think that Starmer is the best we could have hoped for. I also think that he is fully aware of what he's up against, from the agitators and influencers down to the thugs on the streets. He's dealt with terrorists and criminal gangs before, and he can do it again.

Nobody I know who voted Labour has suggested that they regret it - it's far too early in the day for that. I've seen a couple of people posting discontented memes on FB about the WFP, but as neither of them bothered to vote and are simply repeating someone else's cliches, I don't see them as much of a barometer.

I too like Starmer. Clearly I voted Labour, I don’t regret it and look very closely at taxation, the pledge was was not to increase certain personal taxes.

I’m still being pragmatic and patient.

How anyone can accuse Labour of lying within this govt is a tad hilarious given the lies we were fed by the previous govt!

It's not a non issue to me, I am interested in what Embry says, if people arent that's great.

Yup. Non issue/hot air.

You’re trying to make more of this than it was Primrose53, people aren’t biting because they understand the context.

Whitewavemark2

Yes I do. I’m not sure what you think Embery can do.

He is pretty immaterial and really a pigmy amongst giants.

It’s not about what he can do. He is commenting on what he feels and hears amongst the Labour party members, his union work and the general public. I suspect he knows more than you or I.

Yes I do. I’m not sure what you think Embery can do.

He is pretty immaterial and really a pigmy amongst giants.

Whitewavemark2

Starmer is not the sort of character that courts popularity - something that is difficult to understand by people who are used to the cult of personality we saw in the likes of Johnson.

Starmer is a serious politician for serious times.

He has an incredibly difficult task ahead of him both domestically and internationally, but I welcome an individual who places service above personal advantage, and the country above everything else.

As far as Embery is concerned he will be one amongst others who comments on the government. Nothing new there. Embery is culturally very conservative, GBNews are Embery are natural bedfellows.

Starmer will survive Mr Embery😄😄

Oh do you think? Some of my friends who voted labour are now regretting it now that they have lied (not going to tax this that the other) which they are going to do now after all

Two tier policing is a myth to try and divide our country.

Where is the proof?

You can repeat and repeat a meme, and it doesn't make it true.

It is very divisive, designed to inflame.

Starmer is currently working with the police to divide strategies how to manage some very different and difficult situations, which call for different responses.

It would be helpful, instead of criticising the police, to criticise the thugs currently out there in cities frightening men, women and children.

It would be helpful, to ask, "what can bring us together", not "what divides us and how can we make it worse".

Notspaghetti. I’m delighted to have Starmer as PM. I suspect I’m not alone 😀

Galaxy-thanks for mentioning Gloryannie I’d missed her on news n politics and the boxing thread

Never make the mistake to believe GBNews represents what the average person thinks.

They have a definite agenda, regardless of guests.

They attract only-

0.69% of the total viewers in the U.K.

I’d be confident in saying that Starmer has a good grasp of the role of policing, and the requirement on them to respond to the situation in front of them. I’m not sure many other people have, certainly the average social media commentator. I don’t hold much store by chat shows in isolation, whoever the people speaking for different parties are - you can guarantee that next week, with different representatives, the discussion takes a different direction. We need to give the new government time to position itself on these issues, Rome wasn’t built in a day.
I’ve said it before about Starmer, I don’t think he is courting personal popularity, he is trying to do the right thing by the country, and it’s a mammoth task he has ahead of him, so that’s where his focus is.

I heard a terrific interview with him speaking to James O'Brien in 2021 - talk about underselling!

Here it is - Full Disclosure with James O'Brien on Global Player:

www.globalplayer.com/podcasts/episodes/7DrdiaM/

I actually like him JaneJudge.

I don't find him exciting though.
I would have liked him to be a bit bolder to be honest but I think he is what we need.

I don’t dislike him. 😊

I must be the only person who actually likes Starmer 😂

The riots are not a popular uprising, but another symptom of the disease that has set in to the country. The disease being totally uncontrolled migration to a country that has finite resources to accept them. The government (both) and elites ignore the disease and just try to target the individual symptoms, in total isolation. It is the disease that we wish to see targeted. Starmer has no wish to accept the disease exists,

It is more like taking an aspirin and hoping a terminal disease will be cured. We live in a real, nasty world, not some daydreamer's scrapbook. It is time someone serious got a grip and tried some radical surgery before it gets too late.

Well I listen to or watch GB News and Talk radio. I've noticed with their guests on both sides of the political divide, practically everyone agrees there is two tier policing! good thing about both stations is they support proper open honest debate.

I see Starmer as quiety determined to make a difference - my daughter who now sits within Labour where I once sat, sees him as right-wing (for Labour) and in some ways indistinguishable from Sunak!

Probably no one is delighted to have Mr Sensible in charge to be honest... but at least he does seem to be honest and I think he will put the country first.

I think the proof of the pudding will be in the eating.

I think that was me being snippy notspaghetti, peace😀.
I think there was a honeymoon for Blair, in my memory the first cracks came with the Bernie Ecclestone scandal. I think it's quite understandable that starmers experience will be different to Blairs, completely different world to the one Blair inherited so to speak.
I often wonder how politicians feel once they get the top job. I think Starmer was quietly very ambitious, and now he has the role, well it doesnt look much fun to me. Not that it should be fun but I sometimes i wonder how the reality compares to the ambition.

I just meant he was one man with his own agenda, background and circle of friends etc. and it's well known that Starmer is too bland for lots of Labour.

Blair was too much of a showman and not serious or left enough for Labour all those years ago you may remember.

I'm not sure the "public mood" is much different- and that was what i thought the OP was about.

I wasn't trying to shut you (or anyone) up Galaxy.
Apologies if it sounded like that.