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Paul Embery comments on Keir Starmer

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Primrose53 Fri 02-Aug-24 20:05:00

Someone mentioned Paul Embery on a thread this week but I can’t find it now. He is an author and Trade Unionist. He was discussing the overuse of the term FarRight.

Tonight he was on TV and he said “ I detect very little goodwill for Starmer and this Government. I say that as a Labour member of 30 years. This is very unlike the public mood in 1997. It does not bode well.”

That really surprised me as I have been watching him for the last year or so and he is Labour through and through and I have never heard him say anything negative about them.

Doodledog Fri 02-Aug-24 20:07:49

It's hard to comment without knowing the context and what he actually said.

petra Fri 02-Aug-24 20:21:37

Doodledog

It's hard to comment without knowing the context and what he actually said.

It was on GBNews.

Oreo Fri 02-Aug-24 20:23:03

He likely would have preferred Jeremy Corbyn as PM.😲

Urmstongran Fri 02-Aug-24 20:25:53

I’m happy to give Keir Starmer the benefit of the doubt for now. It’s very early days.

Cossy Fri 02-Aug-24 20:26:47

🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ I guess Starmer is too centre for him.

Cossy Fri 02-Aug-24 20:28:10

Urmstongran

I’m happy to give Keir Starmer the benefit of the doubt for now. It’s very early days.

I think we should. It’ll take a good few months for our Gov to “bed” in, very few of the cabinet have actually served in govt.

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 20:38:01

Paul Embery is Blue Labour.

Galaxy Fri 02-Aug-24 20:40:33

It was me who mentioned him. I find him incredibly interesting.

Galaxy Fri 02-Aug-24 20:42:04

Casdon is right. Blue labour, if we have to put people in boxes.

Oreo Fri 02-Aug-24 20:42:47

It’s true tho that this isn’t like the mood there was around the Tony Blair government when they got it into number ten.

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 20:42:50

Galaxy

Casdon is right. Blue labour, if we have to put people in boxes.

It’s how he self identifies, which is as good a box as we’ll get.

Galaxy Fri 02-Aug-24 20:43:19

Sorry that wasnt a dig Casdon, it sounded a bit feisty when I read it back, I just meant I agree with your description.

Galaxy Fri 02-Aug-24 20:43:54

Cross postgrin

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 20:44:12

Galaxy

Sorry that wasnt a dig Casdon, it sounded a bit feisty when I read it back, I just meant I agree with your description.

I know, it’s fine

Whitewavemark2 Fri 02-Aug-24 20:44:21

All the high ranking ex-police officers I have listened to these past couple of days, including one just on Sky, can’t speak highly enough of Starmer.

He clearly has the confidence of the police, and he clearly is giving the police his full support.

This is the situation as it should be at times like this.

Doodledog Fri 02-Aug-24 20:47:55

petra

Doodledog

It's hard to comment without knowing the context and what he actually said.

It was on GBNews.

Well maybe, but if we are to comment on this thread we need to have something to work with - we don't all watch GB News.

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 20:50:31

I think at the moment the government is more focussed on achieving the targets it set for the first 100 days than it is on appeasing the electorate. It’s worth checking out this week’s New Statesman podcast for a review of how things are going so far, the mood in the city etc. I can understand Paul Embery not empathising with the route, it will be interesting to see how his view moves over the next year or so.

karmalady Fri 02-Aug-24 20:55:58

Primrose I 100% agree with you. I also heard Paul Embery speak earlier, GBnews on the radio, while I was sewing.

Primrose53 Fri 02-Aug-24 20:57:14

Doodledog

petra

Doodledog

It's hard to comment without knowing the context and what he actually said.

It was on GBNews.

Well maybe, but if we are to comment on this thread we need to have something to work with - we don't all watch GB News.

He said it on X/Twitter too. I don’t use that.

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 20:58:44

Apologies, I should have linked.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EOR1e6w33w

Primrose53 Fri 02-Aug-24 21:00:53

karmalady

Primrose I 100% agree with you. I also heard Paul Embery speak earlier, GBnews on the radio, while I was sewing.

I always forget it’s on the radio too. 🤭

Were you surprised at what he said? Like Galaxy I find him interesting even though I don’t agree with much of what he says. I have never heard him speak out against Labour, EVER.

karmalady Fri 02-Aug-24 21:05:40

oh yes Primrose I was very surprised, I have only ever heard him agreeing with labour policy in the past. He is a good speaker and I was expecting him to totally agree with Starmer. What Embery said did come out of the blue and I could have cheered tbh

Galaxy Fri 02-Aug-24 21:08:36

He is not predictable, he is not tribal, which I like a lot. He talks a lot about class and poverty which I also like.

Casdon Fri 02-Aug-24 21:10:14

I think you’ll find Labour supporters will be much less surprised.