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False information and incitement on SM and prosecuting the perpetrators

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Marydoll Tue 06-Aug-24 08:48:16

Gosh, sorry for the typos, I'm not functioning very well this morning.

Marydoll Tue 06-Aug-24 08:45:40

Grandmabatty

Some folk on here should look to their laurels. I can't believe the number of hateful, hysterical and racist and biased posts that have been made on this site. It's enough to make me want to step away.

I too am dismayed at some of the posts on GN at the moment. Would posters be so vocal and 6brave6, if they were not anonymous?

I have made a decision not too feed the beast and will refrain from commenting.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Aug-24 08:44:01

Cossy

Good and thought provoking post WWM

That was taken from the Guardian.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Aug-24 08:43:12

fancythat

I dont think I have been on the threads.
And barely read any posts about it either.

But I do think that when a"problem"[whatever it is] is seen by many to have a big impact, and the powers that be, and others, seek to continually stamp on and stamp out those opinions, then there becomes an even bigger "problem".
No matter what type of thing it is about.

Sweeping, what is seen by some as something major, continually under the carpet, [like in real life if someone has a problem], really doesnt work.
And can backfire. Big time.

As the Labour government is finding to the countries cost after 14 years of the Tories sweeping things under the carpet in the form of major economic mismanagement, small state mentality, incompetence snd corruption.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Aug-24 08:40:47

I think that I will begin to post stuff about the situation in the U.K. like we did on the 100 days thread.

Hopefully it will stop misinformation, lies, racist rhetoric (some hope) etc.

I’ll do it later - busy morning

Cossy Tue 06-Aug-24 08:40:11

Good and thought provoking post WWM

fancythat Tue 06-Aug-24 08:38:27

I dont think I have been on the threads.
And barely read any posts about it either.

But I do think that when a"problem"[whatever it is] is seen by many to have a big impact, and the powers that be, and others, seek to continually stamp on and stamp out those opinions, then there becomes an even bigger "problem".
No matter what type of thing it is about.

Sweeping, what is seen by some as something major, continually under the carpet, [like in real life if someone has a problem], really doesnt work.
And can backfire. Big time.

eazybee Tue 06-Aug-24 08:37:52

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Cossy Tue 06-Aug-24 08:36:33

I too agree, I shall do my best not to feed or poke the beast, thought it is hard!

Sadly “fake news” became very prevalent during Covid, conspiracy theorists came forth in their thousands, and whether people are prepared to admit it or not, imo, Brexit and Farage and his ilk appeared to legitimise racism and xenophobia.

LizzieDrip Tue 06-Aug-24 08:33:12

Just seen your posts WW and Casdon. I agree - I often don’t want to post but am like a moth to a flame.

Sitting on hands now👍

Mawmac Tue 06-Aug-24 08:32:28

Thank you for posting this WWM2. I don’t post often, usually my own thoughts have already been well expressed by others and discussions seem to go round in circles. Some posters are very good at implying so that, if challenged, they can defend themselves as having been misunderstood. However, I have been horrified by some of the inflammatory posts and misinformation on here. I will continue to read the posts, if only to keep my awareness of how twisted and bitter some people can be. And, they are having the opposite effect to their aims - I am probably becoming more left wing by the day!

LizzieDrip Tue 06-Aug-24 08:30:10

I agree WW.

On GN:

Opinions presented as facts.

Racist undertones, becoming more and more explicit.

Deliberately inflammatory posts at a time when the country is experiencing extremist riots.

… However, always just ‘short of the line’ by making comments like ‘Of course, I don’t condone the violence’, ‘Of course I’m not racist’ etc.

Straight out of the Farage playbook!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Aug-24 08:27:15

Casdon

I agree, and I think on Gransnet we should stop feeding the beast. The more responses there are, the more permission we are giving for the lunatics to take over the asylum. I’m guilty, because some posts are deliberately very provocative, but I’m sitting on my hands. Blanking is the way forward.

You are right. I am as guilty as anyone.

I shall sit on my hands, and would encourage others to do the same.

Casdon Tue 06-Aug-24 08:20:56

I agree, and I think on Gransnet we should stop feeding the beast. The more responses there are, the more permission we are giving for the lunatics to take over the asylum. I’m guilty, because some posts are deliberately very provocative, but I’m sitting on my hands. Blanking is the way forward.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Aug-24 07:45:10

That is partly why I’ve posted this.

GN has never been so awful. They have all come out of the woodwork and it is undoubtedly SM that is giving them the boldness to say stuff that they would never have dared to say before.

Chocolatelovinggran Tue 06-Aug-24 07:34:21

Oh Grandmabatty how I agree with you.

Grandmabatty Tue 06-Aug-24 06:47:38

Some folk on here should look to their laurels. I can't believe the number of hateful, hysterical and racist and biased posts that have been made on this site. It's enough to make me want to step away.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 06-Aug-24 03:21:40

Since January, an amendment to the Online Safety Act 2023 allows for the prosecution of those who convey information that they know to be false and “if the person intended the message, or the information in it, to cause non-trivial psychological or physical harm to a likely audience”.
Ashley Fairbrother, a senior prosecutor at the law firm Edmonds Marshall McMahon, said: “This now makes the circulation of damaging and false information online into an offence in its own right.”

A former director of public prosecutions, Lord Ken Macdonald KC, spelled out on Monday how he believed investigators would want to quickly identify individuals who are involved in “online organisation, online incitement and online conspiracies”.
“I think prosecutors will want to have a strategy to identify people who may have been involved in inciting and encouraging these events, and they will want to arrest them and build cases against them. These are, in one sense, the most important people,”