False information and incitement on SM and prosecuting the perpetrators

I’m impressed with speed at which the courts are dealing with rioters. So many hundreds of people have wrecked their own lives as well as other peoples. In the cold light of day, when they are sat in prison cells, I wonder if they will still think it was the right thing to do.

JaneJudge

What has attacking mosques and setting fire to shoe shops got to do with illegal immigration?

Ah, but don't forget the true patriots ransacking Lush, presumably they do a special range to calm inflamed minds.

“The director of public prosecutions in England and Wales says he is "willing" to consider charging some rioters with terrorism offences

Meanwhile, Prime Minister Keir Starmer is to chair an emergency Cobra meeting tonight on efforts to tackle the unrest

Suspects are appearing in court after a week of violence in the UK, with 100 people charged and more than 400 arrested

In Belfast, a man in his 50s is in a serious condition in hospital after what police are treating as a racially motivated hate attack”

BBC

Did anyone see the report on BBC showing a poor man whose business had been burnt to the ground?

I could have wept for him. He seemed utterly defeated.

It shuts them up when I post in the middle of the night in future.

Otherwise it would be so boring reading their puerile nonsense, and I don’t won’t to subject other people to discussing my sleeping pattern day after day.

Dickens

Oreo

I must also stop quoting multiple posts as it gets ridiculous and impossible to work out who’s saying what.🤔

We need a 'nesting' facility where comments on one particular post are listed beneath it and added to if necessary. Such replies can then be either expanded or collapsed so only the original post remains.

We certainly do need that 👍🏻

WW2 - I wouldnt feel the need, or pressure, to explain my sleep pattern to anyone!

JaneJudge

fancythat

JaneJudge

What has attacking mosques and setting fire to shoe shops got to do with illegal immigration?

I am guessing that people are angry.

A bit like, if a person is angry, they lash out.
So a bad day at the office can result in a wife beating, type thing.

Sure there are much better examples than that, but best I can think of for now.

are you saying they are particular type of individual? ie. violent?

No, I dont think so?
I have never met a rioter, or know one as far as I know, in real life.

But I do know in real life, a few people, who can get quite angry.

Another carer, and productive in the middle of the night person here. I posted a Connections result at about 3.30 this morning, done as some light relief from tendering for consultancy work.

I canttell who has said what when there is a list of names at the top of a post.

Oreo

I must also stop quoting multiple posts as it gets ridiculous and impossible to work out who’s saying what.🤔

We need a 'nesting' facility where comments on one particular post are listed beneath it and added to if necessary. Such replies can then be either expanded or collapsed so only the original post remains.

InnocentBystander

Apologies if this has been suggested already. If everyone was obliged to reveal their name, address, and contact number, supported by documentary proof, before a social media account was granted, and compelled to use their real name (only, not the other private details) on the site instead of a forum name, then much of the dangerous stuff would stop.

For a small fee, anyone can look up your name on the info-findr.net website;

Search for a person and get a confidential report. You will know about everything, extracted from public records.

... thus -

130 Million Property Records
6 Billion Consumer Records
3.9 Billion Historical Records
600 Million Court Records
89 Million Business Records
120+ Social Networks

Oh, the website does insist that Data you get from our website must be used in a lawful manner.

So that's OK then. I'm sure no-one with malicious intent would ever use the facility to look up a person's name, find all kinds of information about them and use it against them either on social media or, more personally, to threaten or intimidate them, would they?

😄😄

MissAdventure

Could you back that up by posting a doctors certificate.

And a note from your Mum!

MissAdventure

Could you back that up by posting a doctors certificate.

😂😂😂

I must also stop quoting multiple posts as it gets ridiculous and impossible to work out who’s saying what.🤔

tickingbird I get that.

I wish people would stop posting lengthy news articles in full.

Oreo

MayBee70

Oreo

IDGTH about anyone’s sleeping patterns or when they choose to post a comment, that’s their business, but I do care about posters telling others what they shouldn’t comment on.
More power to the Police’s elbow for prosecuting real hate speech and incitement to others online.There is nothing on GN remotely like this, and it does need saying.

So why did they feel the need to remove one thread?

What thread was that as I have no idea? Am guessing it had become spat after spat between posters, that’s the usual reason for pulling a thread.

iirc, the O/P on the thread actually opened with the rumour that caused all the problems - the very dodgy source one that said the murderer was a migrant of asian/muslim origin.

There followed a whole number of posts that were then deleted, because of their content, until the police announced the perp was a UK citizen aged 17 from Cardiff.

So then another lot of deletions when people used OTT language to criticise the opening posts. It got to such a state that GNHQ closed the thread.

Bigluis yes you often see people sleeping upright in Tudor dramas,I did wonder why.

They will pull threads and comments if there’s lots of reporting. Often it’s what some posters want as having to see opposing views and not being able to stop it drives them to the report button

I’ve had more than one comment deleted in the past and when questioned GNHQ have admitted I haven’t broken any guidelines but had lots of reports. It’s cancel culture. I don’t like your point of view and I’m going to stop you!!

So it was about Southport and the awful incident there, I didn’t see the thread so can’t comment.

Yes.

We as retirees are in a good position to follow our natural hardwired sleep patterns.

I use the time to do all my thinking, planning reading etc. it is usually a very productive time.

Being a carer is difficult though.

Oreo

MayBee70

Oreo

IDGTH about anyone’s sleeping patterns or when they choose to post a comment, that’s their business, but I do care about posters telling others what they shouldn’t comment on.
More power to the Police’s elbow for prosecuting real hate speech and incitement to others online.There is nothing on GN remotely like this, and it does need saying.

So why did they feel the need to remove one thread?

What thread was that as I have no idea? Am guessing it had become spat after spat between posters, that’s the usual reason for pulling a thread.

It was removed because GNHQ said there was too much speculation.

And rightly so. They, GNHQ, have a responsibility not to foster it, and might even become legally involved if they do. Especially after such a horrific event when the police have specifically asked people not to speculate online.

@ MayBee70

Thank you for your interesting post on sleep patterns. I have also read a great deal of social history. In past times people who were rich enough to sleep in beds did so propped up by bolsters in a semi seated position, rather than flat as we do now. There was a belief that if you lay down the devil would come and steal your soul in the night. In Tudor times it was believed to aid digestion to be propped up.

I have slept in two shifts ever since I retired. One shift from about 4 - 7 pm and the other from the early hours onward. It totals about 7-8 hours sleep in every 24.

Whitewavemark2

Let me explain my sleep pattern, not frankly that it is anyone’s business.

It is called Segmented sleep, which I have been doing as I’ve got older, although I did so when studying and not so much when I worked full time.

So for those hard of thinking let me explain

We may be hardwired to sleep in two periods. A study by the National Institute of Mental Health looked at how people slept when they got 10 hours of light a day -- about as much as on a winter's day. Researchers found that those folks got their shut-eye in two chunks, with a few hours awake in between. That's closer to how animals sleep, too.

Some people follow that split schedule today -- using the middle-of-the-night awake period as a creative time to think, read, meditate, or work.

"There are people for whom that seems to be a productive way to live and suits them just fine," says Mary Carskadon, PhD, a sleep researcher at Brown University. "But it's hard to do if you have family and a job you have to go to every day."

It works very well for me. Sometimes I might sleep the entire night, but generally I find that the two shift pattern works very well for me.

I hope that helps those whose minds seem so closed that they cannot conceive anything outside of their normality.

Explains a lot.

Thanks for that post.

Apart from its original purpose, it's very useful information, this in particular:

Some people follow that split schedule today -- using the middle-of-the-night awake period as a creative time to think, read, meditate, or work.

The study explains a lot. Certainly for me. My OH calls it my "second wind". But, when he's in bed, when I don't need to be a carer, I'm at my most productive and can concentrate on stuff that is impossible to consider during the normal waking hours.

And I've also posted on GN during that time - as have other GN night owls. We're not odd, nor alone.