Warning- if you go onto the Reform anti-immigration site

I guess if you go on their website you wouldn’t care. I don’t think this would be the only website to do this, witness the targeted ads that come up after you look at a lot of them. Seems more often than not these days, sadly.

Not on Facebook and not a member of Reform but I have checked the privacy settings on my phone.
I think I have denied apps to share my information.
Pretty sad for Reform to be involved in this mess.

Of course Farage has form over this.

Cambridge Analytical -one of whose founders was Steve Bannon, a notorious white supremicists and a friend of Farage - was employed by Leave EU of whom Farage was head.

Cambridge Analytica did exactly the same thing by using data illegally obtained - it was used to target individuals in the run up to the referendum. No one knows how much influence this might have had, but we do know that it was entirely illegal.

Farage, it seems is doing the same again, as this site was set up about two years ago and has been operating undetected since.

He will of course gasp in horror when challenged and immediately sort the issue out - but he is a slippery liar, constantly operating on the fringes of legality, particularly where he is using his influence to cause discontent and the Farage riots.

Thanks for the warning! I did go onto Reforms website prior to GE, I visited all parties websites and checked out their manifesto!

Every day in every way launch another attack on the Conservatives.
Distracts attention from what Labour are actually doing.

eazybee

Every day in every way launch another attack on the Conservatives.
Distracts attention from what Labour are actually doing.

Since when has Reform become the Conservative Party?

Every time you use Google your info goes into their bank accounts.
You will read many claims that they don’t : they do!!! Nothing to see here.

www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and

The Observer article:

www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/aug/10/reform-uk-tracked-private-user-information-without-consent

The Meta pixel is a piece of code that you deliberately put on your website. It’s something that you have to implant not something that happens by accident so the “cock-up nor conspiracy” argument being offered is just more of the “new kids on the block” disingenuity that Farage is so fond of.

Whatever they are branding themselves as this time around, we know they are old lags on the block, veterans of UKIP and the Brexit Party and know exactly what they are doing.

From the Reform “Contract”:

Our data and privacy must be protected. Surveillance of the public must be limited and those monitoring us held to account.

More explanation here for anyone interested in the tech side of Meta pixel.

instapage.com/blog/meta-pixel/

Google is worth $2 trillion. How do they earn that money?
Advertising. Bingo!!

petra

Google is worth $2 trillion. How do they earn that money?
Advertising. Bingo!!

This isn’t about advertising though is it?

eazybee

Every day in every way launch another attack on the Conservatives.
Distracts attention from what Labour are actually doing.

There are plenty of threads about what Labour is doing eazybee, and we’re all free to start more, you included if there is an issue you want to discuss.

Whitewavemark2

petra

Google is worth $2 trillion. How do they earn that money?
Advertising. Bingo!!

This isn’t about advertising though is it?

Advertising is their big earner. Then there’s this.

www.forbes.com/sites/kevinanderton/2020/12/13/middle-schooler-proves-google-search-results-influence-political-opinions-infographic/

eazybee

Every day in every way launch another attack on the Conservatives.
Distracts attention from what Labour are actually doing.

But this is what Reform are actually doing - secretly undermining our freedom to vote for Labour or Conservative as we choose, without our choice being tracked and our details recorded illegally for their own purposes.

Labour are doing legally what they feel will get us out of the financial mess we are in whatever the opinions of other parties There is a vast difference. Farage & Co, of course will be unable to see any difference, or not care about it.

But, as WWM has just a at I’d, this isn’t about advertising, it isn’t about using Cookies which you have agreed to and customised. It is about sharing personal information without consent.

That was for petra. I despair at my proofreading.

petra

Every time you use Google your info goes into their bank accounts.
You will read many claims that they don’t : they do!!! Nothing to see here.

www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/03/google-says-it-doesnt-sell-your-data-heres-how-company-shares-monetizes-and

Every time you look at a website which uses Google Ads, that website receives a very small amount of money from Google. It is how many websites are monetised (including I think Gransnet)

It is the reason that some sites which can't be bothered to add actual content will post instead those long involved "stories" which show a small part on each of many pages followed by a "click here for more" to move on from each cliffhanger.

Google in turn, of course, gets money from the advertisers who pay them to display their ads.

Casdon

eazybee

Every day in every way launch another attack on the Conservatives.
Distracts attention from what Labour are actually doing.

There are plenty of threads about what Labour is doing eazybee, and we’re all free to start more, you included if there is an issue you want to discuss.

I don't want to add fuel to the flames, but this sort of shutting down is not helpful. I'm sure that people across the political spectrum feel that things have been very confrontational on here lately - I certainly do - and I'm sure that many of us see the 'attacks' as being on the party we support. As Casdon says, we can all start threads about whatever we like. There are numerous ones about 'what Labour is doing', and they've only been the government for a few weeks.

As I see it (and I'm not claiming to be less biased than anyone else) most of the recent comments about the Tories have come from exasperated people pointing out that it is not the government who has caused the problems we are in. The previous government was in power for 14 years, and the new one is looking for ways to mitigate some of them. None of us knows yet whether they will succeed, but it is frustrating when they aren't being given a chance.

I think the subject of this thread is very concerning. I too looked at the Reform website - amongst others - to check out who our local candidate was, as boundary changes meant I was unfamiliar with any of the voting choices (she had no photo or details anywhere) and I don't like the idea of my own details being harvested like this. That is not an 'attack on the Tories'. for one thing, it's Reform who have done it, and for another I would feel the same if the Labour Party, the Lib Dems, or anyone else did it. It's unethical.

And illegal

Does the site mention cook ies?

Apologies if that is a naive question.

fancythat

Does the site mention cook ies?

Apologies if that is a naive question.

I don’t know.

I’m certainly not going in to find out😄😄

I think the algorithms whatever they do (I sort of grasp it to a very small extent) that identify and collate individuals on line pattern and target them.

If you trust the current government with your privacy and confidentiality you have rocks in your head! Just to balance things out. Communists have a bad history of prying into peoples’ lives.

fancythat

Does the site mention cook ies?

Apologies if that is a naive question.

Yes, as a massive pop-up page, that certainly wasn’t there before the election (I can’t recall if it asked for cookie permissions before, but the large pop up wasn’t there).

I don’t mind looking because I don’t have Meta accounts - they have always been notorious for privacy breaches and data harvesting of the most invasive kinds.

I do note that Reform are offering ‘member rates’ to their conference, which is so much drivel as they can’t have members under their legal structure.

Yes I have just looked and there is a cookies warning thing.

Galaxy

Yes I have just looked and there is a cookies warning thing.

As I understand it, that has always been there but isn’t worth the pixel it is written on!

Well, they might have changed it now that they have been rumbled.