Why do Asylum Seekers cross the channel on small boats

Dr Max Pemberton in the Daly Mail today reports treating a convicted rapist who was indignant about being convicted because the woman he raped was not wearing a hijab so was ok to rape!

The map in itself shows nothing, in fact it seems to show some countries with no refugees such as Somalia and Ethiopia, where the numbers are relatively high.
The Refugee Council claims that the UK takes only 1% of the total world refugee figures.
41% of all refugees are children.
UK refugees receive a government allowance of £7 per day.
According to the Migration Observatory web-site the asylum seekers are coming from: Afghanistan Iran Pakistan India and Bangladesh.
Other countries include Turkey Iraq Eritrea Albania Syria Sudan Vietnam Brazil and China.

Chestnut

And here are some of the countries they come from.

You photographed a map from local TV show, from one organisation that deals with refugees and decided that this reflects refugees across the UK?

nanna8

It’s nice to live in Lala land though. I thought this was about boat people, not those genuine asylum seekers who go through correct channels. I suppose the UK takes pressure off other parts of the world because the people arriving on boats know they will be fed, clothed and given shelter. Looking back, I guess you could see it as reparations. Unfortunately most are not from those countries previously invaded by Britain.

Lala land? There are no “correct channels” What don’t you understand about this statement!

nanna8

It’s nice to live in Lala land though. I thought this was about boat people, not those genuine asylum seekers who go through correct channels. I suppose the UK takes pressure off other parts of the world because the people arriving on boats know they will be fed, clothed and given shelter. Looking back, I guess you could see it as reparations. Unfortunately most are not from those countries previously invaded by Britain.

nanna8, see MOnica’s post earlier about the young man whose family sold everything to pay smugglers to get him to the UK. We don’t have correct channels.

ronib

MayBee70 The USA withdrew from Afghanistan. In 2021 the Taliban returned to power.

We withdrew along with the USA leaving many people who had worked with the US and UK at risk of death at the hands of the Taliban. In my northern town, the largest group of asylum seekers are from Afghanistan.

David49

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

They cross in small boats because theFrench don’t stopthem.

Your post clearly shows that you haven’t read a single link.

There are plenty of videos of French police standing by and allowing boats to be launched.

Genuine migrants want to come to the UK because they speak English well or have family here, others are trafficked here for illegal purposes.
The UK gets a lower share of migrants than almost any other European country so we dont get any sympathy from them, France will take our money to reduce boats crossing the channel but are not really committed to stopping them.

Read mamie’s link

MayBee70 The USA withdrew from Afghanistan. In 2021 the Taliban returned to power.

This is from 2020, but if you look at the TF1 website you will see the recent operations.

www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/comment-la-france-tente-d-empecher-les-migrants-de-traverser-la-manche-en-small-boat-2164859.html

Whitewavemark2

Primrose53

They cross in small boats because theFrench don’t stopthem.

Your post clearly shows that you haven’t read a single link.

There are plenty of videos of French police standing by and allowing boats to be launched.

Genuine migrants want to come to the UK because they speak English well or have family here, others are trafficked here for illegal purposes.
The UK gets a lower share of migrants than almost any other European country so we dont get any sympathy from them, France will take our money to reduce boats crossing the channel but are not really committed to stopping them.

ronib

MayBee70 You have heard of the Taliban?
What is your take on them?

I don’t understand your point. We left the Afghan people to the hands of the Taliban, that’s why so many are persecuted and are trying to escape (especially the ones that worked for us that we totally let down).

MayBee70 You have heard of the Taliban?
What is your take on them?

How strange. I really thought we’d invaded Afghanistan ?

It’s nice to live in Lala land though. I thought this was about boat people, not those genuine asylum seekers who go through correct channels. I suppose the UK takes pressure off other parts of the world because the people arriving on boats know they will be fed, clothed and given shelter. Looking back, I guess you could see it as reparations. Unfortunately most are not from those countries previously invaded by Britain.

Doodledog

I don't usually re-post memes as I prefer it when people use their own words; but this says it better than I possibly could.

If you want to be picky we are all descended from the first homo sapiens who lived in the Middle Paleolithic period, or is that a bit too far back? We have a bit of Neaderthal DNA thrown in too.

None of this has any relevance to the problems of mass migration we are experiencing today, on a scale never seen before in the history of this country. Don't pretend we can cope with this because we can't.

Wyllow3

keepingquiet

I'd like to know the sources for Chestnut's map.

Even if I enlarge the map, its not clear what its saying - there is no explanation of symbols and I cant read the words too fuzzy.
perhaps a link to the source?

The source was a local BBC news item on TV. There was a world map on the wall of an organisation who helped refugees/migrants. The lady who was interviewed said "These are the countries our clients come from". I was so shocked by the obvious visual impact of this map, the huge number of countries and the tiny little UK in the corner, I took a photo with my camera. That's why the map is not clear, although I think it's clear enough to get the point across.

Primrose53

They cross in small boats because theFrench don’t stopthem.

The French take many more refugees than the UK. It works out about equally allowing for size of country and per capita.

Lets put it another way round. What sort of conditions would lead you to risk your life and your whole family in order to escape from this country to another country?

I heard a story today, of a young man. His family had always been active in opposition politics in his country of origin, but the government had become a dictaatorship. First his father was arrested and killed. His mother was told he had had a heart attack, but they saw the body and it was clear he had been tortured to death. Then his brother disappearedand has now been missing for 5 years.

His mother fearful of losing her only surviving son, told him to flee the country immediately. He would not be safe in an adjacent country because of his govenment's hit squads, Britain has a reputation as upholding the rule of law, so his mother sold everything she could to raise the money to pay people smugglers to get him to Britain. He speaks fluent English and has relations in this country.

In his and his mother's ssituation. What would you do?

Please take the time to read values, voice and virtues new British Politics by professor Matthew Goodwin.

I don't usually re-post memes as I prefer it when people use their own words; but this says it better than I possibly could.

keepingquiet

I'd like to know the sources for Chestnut's map.

Even if I enlarge the map, its not clear what its saying - there is no explanation of symbols and I cant read the words too fuzzy.
perhaps a link to the source?

Primrose too see my above post

I'd like to know the sources for Chestnut's map.

Chestnut, you are so brave to stand your ground. You are fully entitled to put your point of view, plenty feel like you and I do about this issue. Its not a question of lacking in empathy or being “racist” no matter the accusations.