Why do Asylum Seekers cross the channel on small boats

growstuff how about a deterrent - for example, processing asylum applications off shore? ………

Chestnut

Back to the boats, yesterday we had 492 new arrivals, making 19,066 this year. No matter how quickly these are processed there are too many. Can any system process that many in one day, and where will they all go? This is just an endless stream of illegal migrants and it will not stop unless something drastic is done.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13754745/migrants-successfully-illegally-crossed-channel-Britain-Labour-axed-Rwanda-scheme.html

I just don’t think the will to take drastic action is there and am awaiting what Keir Starmer will do over the next couple of years.
Since the Rwanda scheme was abandoned something else has to take its place.

It’s a lot easier to take money from pensioners than it is to stop the boats and Starmer knew that before he started.
I didn’t expect an immediate halt, but I’m watching closely to see what happens and how long it takes.
Under the last government, I’m almost certain I’d be reading claims that the WFA proposal was to divert attention from the failure to deal with the boats.

Yes Mollygo completely agree….

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

Monica process all asylum applications off shore? I think Italy is going to do this.

M0nica

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

Not really. So far all suggestions, Rwanda, Bibby Stockholm, etc have been rejected.

I’m not being paid over £90k to find an answer or I’d put more effort into finding a solution.

Mollygo So far all suggestions, Rwanda, Bibby Stockholm, etc have been rejected.
Exactly, this is the problem. Any attempt to discourage or remove them is blocked. Even when they try and deport criminals there are people dragging them off the airplane trying to keep them here. And people on TV with placards saying 'migrants welcome' is only going to encourage more.

I chat to a group of Vietnamese migrants quite often. They still have parents and family back in Vietnam and they send money back there to assist the older ones because they don’t have pensions or any government help and if you can’t work, have no close family or support, you can starve. That is why many of them like to come and I suppose it is the same with the UK. We wouldn’t let anyone here die of starvation and I assume the UK wouldn’t,either. Economic migrants I suppose but they work very hard.They don’t come on boats,though, and are checked out before they stay. Difference.

Nanna8, my only experience with Australia is via ^Nothing to Declare.
It appears they are very strict about arriving with a work permit visa or you get shipped back to where you came from.
That happens week after week on the program.

Even when we came here in the early 1970s we had to jump through many hoops to get a visa. We are both qualified , my husband actually had a job offer in a University but it still took almost a year before they let us in. We had a personal interview at Australia house and thought we would be rejected because our baby played up and tried to destroy the office. Maybe they wanted rid of us ? They also counselled us on how difficult emigration is and that we needed to find a social network asap. Which we did.

M0nica

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

The French police watch the boats being launched, I simply don’t believe they could not puncture the inflatables and stop them launching.

There is no sympathy at all for the UK in Europe because they have a higher migration than we do, so they take the money and go through the motions.

David49

M0nica

Does anyone have any ideas how these boats could be stopped?

The French police watch the boats being launched, I simply don’t believe they could not puncture the inflatables and stop them launching.

There is no sympathy at all for the UK in Europe because they have a higher migration than we do, so they take the money and go through the motions.

Did you read the articles from French media that I posted David49. I honestly don't know how anyone could have a realistic picture of what is actually happening by relying on anglophone media.

Whatever they say 70% of crossings are successful, which sounds to me like not really trying, if it depends on the UK paying the French more to do the job properly, it’s going to be a lot cheaper than the stupid Rwanda plan.

I couldn’t understand why Scotland wasn’t chosen instead of Rwanda?

Sorry? You want to send refugees to Scotland? What on earth are you talking about?

ronib

I couldn’t understand why Scotland wasn’t chosen instead of Rwanda?

They do go there but it’s still better than the places they left

Yes why not?

England is so seriously overpopulated.

ronib

England is so seriously overpopulated.

Why is it more serious than in more densely populated countries? Only 11% of the UK's land is built on.

nanna8

I chat to a group of Vietnamese migrants quite often. They still have parents and family back in Vietnam and they send money back there to assist the older ones because they don’t have pensions or any government help and if you can’t work, have no close family or support, you can starve. That is why many of them like to come and I suppose it is the same with the UK. We wouldn’t let anyone here die of starvation and I assume the UK wouldn’t,either. Economic migrants I suppose but they work very hard.They don’t come on boats,though, and are checked out before they stay. Difference.

But the people who choose to come to the UK and obtain a visa have used a legal route and the UK needs those people. I wish people would stop conflating legal immigration, which constitutes the majority, and those arriving by irregular means, most of whom are fleeing danger.

No it isn't. On a list of the world popularion density by by quantity we come 52.

In Europe the Netherlands and Belgium have denser population than us, as do, Japan, South Korea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_densitys

M0nica

No it isn't. On a list of the world popularion density by by quantity we come 52.

In Europe the Netherlands and Belgium have denser population than us, as do, Japan, South Korea.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_population_densitys

Thanks for that MOnica. I knew that the UK is nowhere near the most densely populated area, but was too lazy to look up the stats.

For some reason the story of Syrian refugees going to Rothesay always struck a chord with me. I wonder how it worked out for them. A big change all round.

It strikes me Scotland is doing a far better job of welcoming people.

Of course its not a case of " Send them to Scotland" or " Send them to Rwanda"

Chestnut

Mollygo So far all suggestions, Rwanda, Bibby Stockholm, etc have been rejected.
Exactly, this is the problem. Any attempt to discourage or remove them is blocked. Even when they try and deport criminals there are people dragging them off the airplane trying to keep them here. And people on TV with placards saying 'migrants welcome' is only going to encourage more.

Exactly. 👏👏