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Why do Asylum Seekers cross the channel on small boats

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Cossy Sun 11-Aug-24 12:12:53

This is a thread in answer to a question on a thread totally unrelated to the crossings.

This isn’t about the rights and wrongs of it, or why Asylum Seekers don’t seek Asylum in the first safe country they come across, though if you do wish to know more click on this link!

www.unhcr.org/uk/refugees#:~:text=They%20provide%20the%20universal%20definition,freedom%20would%20be%20at%20risk.

For reasons why people seek asylum here in the UK:-

www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/information/refugee-asylum-facts/understanding-channel-crossings/

www.redcross.org.uk/stories/migration-and-displacement/refugees-and-asylum-seekers/5-reasons-people-cross-the-channel

theconversation.com/ive-spent-time-with-refugees-in-french-coastal-camps-and-they-told-me-the-governments-rwanda-plan-is-not-putting-them-off-coming-to-the-uk-221798

Enough info here (I hope) to both explain and to be balanced.

ronib Thu 05-Sept-24 19:37:08

I see that Germany is now looking to send its asylum seekers to Rwanda. Couldn’t make it up.

Casdon Thu 05-Sept-24 19:52:48

ronib please read a reliable source. This is a proposal put forward by the migration commissioner, not a government plan.
www.reuters.com/world/germanys-migration-commissioner-proposes-rwanda-migrant-deportation-plan-2024-09-05/

ronib Thu 05-Sept-24 19:58:59

Casdon I have had confirmation that this is a possibility from a friend living in Germany.

ronib Thu 05-Sept-24 20:01:27

FDP Liberal did very badly in local elections and wants to win some votes back according to my source Casdon

Casdon Thu 05-Sept-24 20:14:24

It’s anecdotal ronib. Until something becomes policy, that’s all it is.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-24 20:17:08

ronib

I see that Germany is now looking to send its asylum seekers to Rwanda. Couldn’t make it up.

I suspect that it has everything to do with the latest election and the AfD, and nothing to do with government policy.

petra Thu 05-Sept-24 20:27:04

ronib

I see that Germany is now looking to send its asylum seekers to Rwanda. Couldn’t make it up.

Harley news 🤷‍♀️
It was reported in November 2023

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67343002

Visgir1 Thu 05-Sept-24 20:38:59

That's going to be interesting if Germany actually do it?

ronib Thu 05-Sept-24 20:39:48

petra it seems to be gaining some momentum in Germany and that is news.

Kalm Thu 05-Sept-24 21:09:39

Excellent piece detailing the reasons why asylum seekers come. Most come from countries where the western governments have sown deep divisions. We go there tell ahmed’s tribe Abdullah and his lot are evil then to ahmed the same about abdullah’s tribe. When the west fails politically or militarily….oh shit we better leave…we’re chased by men in flip flops. Then the BBc and sky bring tear jerking news about the oppression of women and how they need sanctuary and yet we haven’t brought any Gazan women to the uk…..who are being killed in their thousands.

petra Thu 05-Sept-24 21:15:48

ronib

petra it seems to be gaining some momentum in Germany and that is news.

Not if you read European newspapers.

ronib Thu 05-Sept-24 21:21:07

petra try speaking to the people who live in Germany. Newspapers??

Iam64 Thu 05-Sept-24 21:24:35

All the people who live in Germany ronib. I’m not sure Petra can manage that

ronib Thu 05-Sept-24 21:28:06

Iam64 point taken. However it is an interesting development imo.

foxie48 Thu 05-Sept-24 21:53:34

This was a suggestion by the immigration minister in response to Putin encouraging migrants to access Germany via Russia. If they did want to do this they would face the same challenges as the UK did ie they would have to change their own laws regarding the treatment of asylum seekers and would probably not get sufficient support to pass the changes in law required.