Yaxley-Lennon - false passport?

Didn't you read Sago's post just above. It does- but the procedure is very strict, proof required with birth certificates, and takes quite a while. So someone desperate, because of criminal conviction on original passport from place of birth, and Brexit restrictions to movement to Europe- may have taken illegal shortcuts. In this case, if and when proven by investigation, stating Ireland as place of birth.

One of my friends applied after Brexit, and the procedure was not simple and it took over 1 year.

His mother was Irish.
I thought that automatically qualified someone for an Irish passport.

dayvidg

So why does this post not classify as 'spreading mis-information' ?

Because it is not. Clearly stated that we have to wait for proper investigation.

Sago, exactly- you have to go through a rigorous procedure and it takes time. It seems, awaiting investigation and confirmation, that Yaxley-Lennon needed an Irish passport quickly, because his British one was affected by several criminal charges, and limiting due to Brexit (he wanted to move to Spain- has done so, in fact) - so he may have decided to cut corners and commit fraud. Again, to be confirmed or dismissed by official investigation by British, Irish and Spanish Governments.

Debsododaband

You don’t need to be born in Ireland to get an Irish passport, a parent or grandparents born in Ireland will suffice, and that’s for the whole island of Ireland

You cannot automatically get an Irish passport if you have an Irish grandparent.
You have to register on the Foreign Births Register first, it takes about a year.
Once accepted you can apply for your passport.

pce612

Who is he???

Hard to know where to start, but this wiki article gives both personal and political details which are adequate background to comments made on this thread if not totally up to date

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Robinson_(activist)

He has been one of those inflaming the situation for rioting and has been of interest to anti-terror watchdogs for some time. (ie by those in our society monitoring a number of individuals) and therefore questions about extraditing in this thread. re the riots.

Why did you bring Brian into that 😂

So why does this post not classify as 'spreading mis-information' ?

Who is he???

You don’t need to be born in Ireland to get an Irish passport, a parent or grandparents born in Ireland will suffice, and that’s for the whole island of Ireland

Both, it seems (waiting for investigation results however). He has many criminal convictions linked to his English identity, and is also limited due to Brexit, which he strongly pushed for- so using an Irish passport would have made his moving around easier, as his move to Spain!

So he has joint UK and Irish passports or just Irish?

I agree, Wyllow. Yaxley-Lennon has the ring of an aristocratic hippie running a commune … or maybe a cult which YL certainly does run, his followers all too willing to crowdfund his lifestyle.

I did some sleuthing through genealogy records. Both of his maternal grandparents were born in Dublin and married in Dublin. His mother was born in Dublin in 1957.

Looks like his maternal grandparents and their Dublin-born children first arrived in Luton in the early 1960s whereupon they had more two more children. The family appears in Luton voter lists from 1963 onwards. His mother is first listed to vote in 1975 when she was 18.

She married English-born Malcom Yaxley in 1980 and Thomas Lennon in 1990. Birth registrations in Luton for Stephen Yaxley and his slightly older brother were then re-registered.

The Irish Department of Foreign Affairs says you are automatically an Irish citizen if one of your parents was an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland. You can also become an Irish citizen if one of your grandparents was born in Ireland. Either way he would qualify to apply for an Irish passport but unless his parents just happened to be visiting Ireland when his mother gave birth (but still registered him in Luton), I doubt very much that he was born in Ireland.

Sago

You don’t have to be born in Ireland to get an Irish passport.
You are automatically an Irish citizen and entitled to an Irish passport if you have a parent born on the island of Ireland.

To obtain the passport you have to provide birth/marriage certificates, it’s a robust screening process.

That is correct. My OH qualified in that way.

Babs03

Lennon called himself Tommy Robinson after an infamous football hooligan from a football hooligan crew supporting Luton FC.

I also think he deliberately wanted to sound like "one of the lads" to push his propaganda, "Yaxley Lennon" didn't quite cut it.

Throw the book at him, odious individual.

Lennon called himself Tommy Robinson after an infamous football hooligan from a football hooligan crew supporting Luton FC.

Why is he called Tommy Robinson when his name is actually Yaxley Lennon?
I’ve always been puzzled by that.

Babs03

Yaxley Lennon must have served time before. We once went to someone’s home address a few years ago to look at a dining room table and chairs advertised on gumtree, as we were about to go to the door we saw a sticker on their car on the back window saying ‘free Tommy Robinson’.
My husband is a man of colour so we turned around and went home.

He's been in prison a few times, he's also had various aliases

You don’t have to be born in Ireland to get an Irish passport.
You are automatically an Irish citizen and entitled to an Irish passport if you have a parent born on the island of Ireland.

To obtain the passport you have to provide birth/marriage certificates, it’s a robust screening process.

Yaxley Lennon must have served time before. We once went to someone’s home address a few years ago to look at a dining room table and chairs advertised on gumtree, as we were about to go to the door we saw a sticker on their car on the back window saying ‘free Tommy Robinson’.
My husband is a man of colour so we turned around and went home.

He really is a vile specimen, I agree.

Of course you are right MissAdventure but he has done so much harm I think we are letting off some steam.

Including incitement to many of those now in prison - whereas he's off living in luxury hotels.

I think we'd n proof, rather than rumours.

I was going to say prison, but he'd just spread his poison there!

keepingquiet

Who's up for sending him to Rwanda? He seems stateless now...

Me!!