Mike Lynch yacht sinking and business partner mown down out running.

The wealth of the people who died does not lessen the tragedy BigLouis, they are all someone's Father, daughter, husband, wife or otherwise.

eazybee

Seven people died, big louis, and that is a tragedy, whoever they were and why.

This ^

Seven people died, big louis, and that is a tragedy, whoever they were and why.

I would say big Louis because I dont judge the value of human life on how much people earn. That way I maintain some level of morality.

biglouis

With what is going on in the world at present I am wondering at all this fuss because 6 very rich people die on a luxury yacht in a seastorm. At least most of the crew got away.

Biglouis if the crew had been doing their job properly, the passengers would have got away too. I think a lot of people will be sad that an 18 year old girl lost her life too. Even though much else is happening, it is still very sad.

From all I’ve read on reliable news sources (not the likes of TikToK) it’s likely that the hatches on the yacht, which should have been closed, were left open for the sake of cool air for sleeping when it had been very hot, in which case the inrush of water would have made it sink like a stone - which is evidently what happened, according to a witness.

ronib

DH has pointed out that other yachts in the vicinity did not sink. So the mast and CV keel should have been lowered.

I have seen it theorised that the keel had been raised. Had it been in place it should have acted as a counterweight to the mast. Why it should have been raised when there was a considerable depth of water below the yacht is a puzzle.

But perhaps nothing could have saved it from the waterspout..

As I understand it, it was mostly crew who were saved because they were on deck preparing for the storm.

I don't believe the conspiracy theory. Just awful coincidence.

With what is going on in the world at present I am wondering at all this fuss because 6 very rich people die on a luxury yacht in a seastorm. At least most of the crew got away.

^This is a case of the 1: 10 million chance. Nothing remotely suspect about it what so ever.
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I may agree with the first part. Cant agree that there is nothing to be suspect about it all though.

My mother was friends with 2 brothers in her youth. One of the brothers died going over the handlebars of his bike on his way to school and on the very same date the following year the other brother died in exactly the same way, also cycling to school.

CV is typo

DH has pointed out that other yachts in the vicinity did not sink. So the mast and CV keel should have been lowered.

This set of events is truly tragic. I don't think though, that it is anything other than an appalling set of dreadful circumstances. All because something is a trillion to one chance, it doesn't mean it can't happen; someone does win the lottery, and as some will remember only too well, an expert medical witness was responsible for the conviction and imprisonment of that poor woman who lost 3 babies to cot death. He said that the odds were so massive that it had to be deliberate. The truth was otherwise of course.

My DH seems to think that the tender was housed in a different type of hatch and that the hatch had not been closed. Coupled with portholes being left open, it would not take very long for the yacht to be flooded … but in any event human negligence may have played a part. Doubtless more information will filter through.

RosesandLilac

I find it strange that there were four days of warnings about storms yet it seems that no preventative measures were taken. Or perhaps there was an assumption that all would be well….
Very sad.

Giovanni Costantino who is the CEO of the company who built the stricken yacht is blaming human error as even with the severe storm, his vessel would not sink. Now where have I heard that before?

That yacht looked strange, I only have a Physics A Level but the centre of gravity looks to me all wrong. Sadly, it looked like a giant pendulum not a seaworthy sailing vessel.
COG needs to be lower down.
My father sailed a Black Water Sloop with a 6 ft lead keel. The sea acts in a different way to being on land.

Don't we, but especially the media, love a good conspiracy?

The truth is always much more mundane, incompetence and coincidence.

Coincidences are grist to conspiracy mongers.

Stranger things happen as the saying goes.
We had a neighbour with twin boys, when they grew up one of them joined the army and was sadly killed in action in Afghanistan, and the other was killed a day later whilst travelling in a taxi to his parents house when a driver had a heart attack at the wheel and ploughed into the taxi.
It happens.

Whatever happened, some of them were definitely sleeping on deck beforehand, because the mother who saved her baby from the sea said so when she was interviewed. It must have been terrifying.

I find it strange that there were four days of warnings about storms yet it seems that no preventative measures were taken. Or perhaps there was an assumption that all would be well….
Very sad.

This is a case of the 1: 10 million chance. Nothing remotely suspect about it what so ever.

I do not think it can be assumed that all were in their cabins. If the storm was exceptional, some may have preferred to sit it out in the saloon, which was at deck level.

DH is a Naval Architect, a ship designer, althought we worked in the offshore industry. This boat was state of the art designed by someone who patented his first invention at 20. He was constantly pushing the limits of technology on these ships to reduce crew size and it was claimed this ship could be sailed by one man with a joystick.

DH says that often when you are pushing design like this, everything might look fine on a computer print out, but instinct tells you there could be dangers and where they might be. The problem with virtuoso designers is that they generally do not brook criticism or doubts.

The cause could be hubris, it could be a 'Black swan ' event that couldn't be forseen - like the wind spout, it could be material fatigue of some kind, or human error. DH refuses to commit himself until he has more information.

It was early morning I think, but it would have been very hot, so lots of people would probably opt to sleep on deck rather than in their cabins. Sicily has had very hot weather this summer, in the forties some days.

ronib

The body of Hannah has now been found.

Her poor mother, lost both husband and daughter.

How did some of them escape and not others?

I assumed everyone would be asleep in their cabins.

The body of Hannah has now been found.