Angela Rayner dancing whilst on holiday in Ibiza

MissAdventure school day for nursery and infants ends at 3.30pm. Definitely not 2pm.
I don’t think you need to research this - common sense and an understanding of young children will tell you it is not workable.

ronib

eazybee that won’t happen. Can you imagine adding two hours extra to the school day Monday to Thursday? Chaos and meltdown.
I was just trying to console myself that perhaps someone in the UK government had one or two workable policies …. Back to the drawing board.

Teachers could work 4 days with pupils still attending 5 days as working hours are compressed, not lessened. Shouldn't be beyond computerised timetabling.

Apologies - screen went black! Low battery.
exhausted.

ronib

MissAdventure how? Do you really think that new information and learning would have been absorbed?
I don’t think my grandchildren would agree to 4 longer days a week.

I don't allow my boy to agree or disagree to his school days.
He'd never have gone if I did.

I don't think there is any research that shows one way or the other whether longer days are good or bad.

I'd need to check it out.

Finishing at 2pm seems as if it could be re-jigged to a 4pm finish.

Maybe it could work at secondary school level? I’m not a teacher so I don’t know enough about it, would be interested to hear what people think though.

Reception and Y1, 2 would be exg0hausted.

However, the school day at the comprehensive schools around here seems to end very early.

In my day (😴) it ended at 4pm.

eazybee

As long as it applies to schools as well and parents can look after their children on the fifth day, perhaps a day for doing all their homework.

It has to be tailored to the job required, obviously. I think asking young children to be in school working for 5 days over 4 days is somewhat of a step beyond their concentration capabilities, wouldn’t they be exhausted?
However, the savings for parents with pre-school children would be huge, because each parent could have a different day off, and they could look after their young child on that day, resulting in them only needing to go to nursery for 3 days each week, which is surely win, win?

MissAdventure how? Do you really think that new information and learning would have been absorbed?
I don’t think my grandchildren would agree to 4 longer days a week.

It would have been easy to add extra hours to my boys school days.

eazybee that won’t happen. Can you imagine adding two hours extra to the school day Monday to Thursday? Chaos and meltdown.
I was just trying to console myself that perhaps someone in the UK government had one or two workable policies …. Back to the drawing board.

As long as it applies to schools as well and parents can look after their children on the fifth day, perhaps a day for doing all their homework.

Yes it does - parents really stretched and four days would help. Also research says employers get more in four than five days

It’s a possible policy and it was announced by Jacqui Smith. I’ve no idea what it’s meant to have to do with Rayner dancing (or doing owt else).

ronib

Has anyone picked up on the latest policy initiative from AR to introduce a 4 day working week with same hours worked but compressed into 4 days and not 5? I know some families have negotiated 4 days with both parents working without government involvement so does this need to be enforced more powerfully or not?

Yes.

Has anyone picked up on the latest policy initiative from AR to introduce a 4 day working week with same hours worked but compressed into 4 days and not 5? I know some families have negotiated 4 days with both parents working without government involvement so does this need to be enforced more powerfully or not?

Ridiculed for Glyndebourne, lambasted for Ibiza. If only she would learn her place! The snobbery and misogyny is relentless.

grannysyb

I didn't vote Labour, but can't think why people are being so snotty about her dancing during her holiday. The poor woman also got told off by Dominic Raab for going to the opera, according to some people she shouldn't be doing either!

I doubt whether AR was bothered by anything Raab said - wasn’t he the Foreign Secretary who remained on holiday in Crete (is that an aspirational destination?) while the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan was taking place?

MayBee70

RosiesMaw2

MayBee70

Could switch to Peter Kyle for having the audacity to become a government minister despite being severely dyslexic and struggling education wise whilst at school? We’ve got a right load of over achievers in the current government unfortunately…still, only five years to go before we can get some proper people back in government.

I would be very proud of anybody in my family who overcame the hurdle and stigma of dyslexia

I do hope you were being ironic.

Of course I was! I chatted with him a while back after reading an interview he gave in The Times in which he said how one of his teachers publicly humiliated him by making him read out some Shakespeare to the class, knowing full well that he couldn’t read. I just don’t understand how some people can be so cruel. Things like that stay with you. He was brilliant in parliament yesterday.

Don't know about Shakespeare, but are they looking for a new James Bond?

MissAdventure

Diplomat

Sadly she is representing this country but she isn't representing me.

Just as Boris didn't represent a lot of people.

I imagine Diplomat is a Farragista.

Diplomat

Sadly she is representing this country but she isn't representing me.

Just as Boris didn't represent a lot of people.

RosiesMaw2

MayBee70

Could switch to Peter Kyle for having the audacity to become a government minister despite being severely dyslexic and struggling education wise whilst at school? We’ve got a right load of over achievers in the current government unfortunately…still, only five years to go before we can get some proper people back in government.

I would be very proud of anybody in my family who overcame the hurdle and stigma of dyslexia

I do hope you were being ironic.

Of course I was! I chatted with him a while back after reading an interview he gave in The Times in which he said how one of his teachers publicly humiliated him by making him read out some Shakespeare to the class, knowing full well that he couldn’t read. I just don’t understand how some people can be so cruel. Things like that stay with you. He was brilliant in parliament yesterday.

I didn't vote Labour, but can't think why people are being so snotty about her dancing during her holiday. The poor woman also got told off by Dominic Raab for going to the opera, according to some people she shouldn't be doing either!

Sadly she is representing this country but she isn't representing me.

Iam64

Cossy - could it be that the very idea of a northern woman, who grew up in a working class community with many on long term benefits rather than working but who went on to succeed in life is somehow threatening?
Angela was a carer for her mum who had mental health problems. As with many child carers, her education was affected, no one at home to make sure she ate well, did her homework or got to bed on time. Despite the odds, Angela succeeded. As a teenage mum, she made use of the support offered at the family centre. When employed in Care she took advantage of the educational opportunities her Union offered. She’s the kind of success story anyone who has been involved in supporting vulnerable, disadvantaged young mothers work for

I agree with all of this.

I know some think she’s “common”, but actually I quite admire her bluntness, as I had a Granny from Lancashire I have no issue with her being Northern and those who say that she’s not up to scratch as an international figure representing the UK, well did they think Truss and Johnson were?

ronib
Well let’s just say Ibiza is not an aspirational destination for a member of the ruling elite ?

Can I refer you to the thread about snootiness re holiday destinations?