Angela Rayner dancing whilst on holiday in Ibiza

Oh no!!
I'd hate my boy seeing Rayner as a role model.
Banish the thought!!!

He might end up as a... a... a... oh I can hardly bear to say it!!!
A d..d..deputy prime minister.

The shame of it all.

Cossy I saw the video of AR and I think it may well encourage young people to drink too much when clubbing. I don’t think Boris Johnson would have quite the same appeal to young people.
There is a definite problem of alcohol addiction and youth. AR is seen to endorse it.

ronib

HPQ to be fair I think in retrospect that AR is a role model for young people and I do worry about drinking to excess. AR seems to have the attitude of an unreasonable teenager in this instance.
I don’t buy all this 14 years stuff - Oliver Dowden was a very quiet, intelligent and hardworking deputy prime minister from a working class home and a good state school. If the country went down the pan with Dowden in government, I hate to think where we will be in 5 years time.

You are kidding?

Half of this country’s young people take zero interest in politics, and those who do are far too intelligent to see AR as a role model!

For goodness sake, did young people see Johnson as a role model? He was jolly and affable and had “character”

foxie48

I don't think AR can win, whatever she does she will be derided by the media and seemingly lots on this forum too. However, for now she's staying true to her roots and herself, she likes to dance, so she goes to a club and dances. She likes a drink, so she has a drink. She has a very disadvantaged background with little formal education and she makes no secret about it but anyone who has listened to her being interviewed on This is politics podcast will know, she doesn't blame anyone either for her childhood, which I really admire about her. I'm content to listen and watch before I make any judgements about her, pity others aren't willing to do the same but that's politics for you!

It is indeed.

With poor Ms Rayner it will always be damned if she does, cursed if she doesn’t

Quite frankly I have more to worry about than what she wears, where she holidays and what she drinks!!

Honestly not so long ago posters were calling Starmer boring!

Well AR is far from boring, but that’s wrong too.

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BevSec

Boris was one of the best P M , I thought he really cared about others.

Oh god! How can anyone still believe this?????

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I haven’t read through the thread but just want to say - enjoying herself? Dancing? On holiday? How very dare she!
Unlike the sight of Michael Gove throwing his moves on the dance floor- that was truly cringeworthy!

I don't think AR can win, whatever she does she will be derided by the media and seemingly lots on this forum too. However, for now she's staying true to her roots and herself, she likes to dance, so she goes to a club and dances. She likes a drink, so she has a drink. She has a very disadvantaged background with little formal education and she makes no secret about it but anyone who has listened to her being interviewed on This is politics podcast will know, she doesn't blame anyone either for her childhood, which I really admire about her. I'm content to listen and watch before I make any judgements about her, pity others aren't willing to do the same but that's politics for you!

She’s on holiday. She’s having a few drinks and dancing. We’ve all done that surely? Load of fuss over nothing.

It was proved that she didn't sublet her home, wasnt it?
The rest isn't even worth responding to, particularly because a lot of grans on here refer to their sons or daughters "darling partners".

Seems Ange is just the same as everyone else in that respect.

I would hate to think AR is a role model for young women but I rather fear she may be.
Ignore school, go clubbing in search of men, get pregnant, get your own flat, then have more babies (because you get more points that way ) but don't marry your partner; sublet your council home and if they find out, move in with your partner elsewhere and they will have to rehouse you.
All true, two women, same age as AR, who have done exactly this and now reside in spanking new social housing in a good area without even having to pretend they are working. All posted on Facebook, shown to me by their rather resentful contemporaries.
And to repeat, AR is held in place by the unions. Look at some of the new Labour MPs and see how much money they have received from Union donations: Liam Conlon, already a PPS.

To be fair, we have been in a strange limbo land since the GE, due to the unusual timing so close to the end of the parliamentary term. It has been a government of interview and soundbites. This strange situation had been exacerbated by a current opposition in the process of sorting out it's new leader.

HPQ the fairest approach is to judge by results?
I don’t like the abrasive style adopted by the new government - Reeves, Rayner and Starmer are all very new to the job and I hope they begin to feel more comfortable very soon.

ronib

HPQ to be fair I think in retrospect that AR is a role model for young people and I do worry about drinking to excess. AR seems to have the attitude of an unreasonable teenager in this instance.
I don’t buy all this 14 years stuff - Oliver Dowden was a very quiet, intelligent and hardworking deputy prime minister from a working class home and a good state school. If the country went down the pan with Dowden in government, I hate to think where we will be in 5 years time.

I don't think "young people" see politicians as role models though. I don't know a great deal about Dowden, but do think that the rot started with Cameron and Osbourne and austerity. The underfunding from that period has never been made up. I am not a huge fan of AR, but I can recognise that she has succeeded where many fail; she could easily have ended up as yet another single parent on benefits, the kind of person who is oft criticised on GN (flat screen tv, latest mobile, tattoos etc), so surely, irrespective of our politics we should applaud her as an example of what can be achieved

HousePlantQueen

mousemac

Just a bit more normal than losing your security detail while partying with Russian spies.

Indeed.

Reminds me of that old song, Angela versus Boris. Anything you can do…
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO23WBji_Z0

HPQ to be fair I think in retrospect that AR is a role model for young people and I do worry about drinking to excess. AR seems to have the attitude of an unreasonable teenager in this instance.
I don’t buy all this 14 years stuff - Oliver Dowden was a very quiet, intelligent and hardworking deputy prime minister from a working class home and a good state school. If the country went down the pan with Dowden in government, I hate to think where we will be in 5 years time.

EEJit

The problem is, the country is in the sh*t, and sink8ng deeper and the so called deputy pm, who also holds at least one other position, is off dancing her heart out when she should be, sorting out the country

Parliament returns this week. AR was on holiday during recess

mousemac

Just a bit more normal than losing your security detail while partying with Russian spies.

Indeed.

she's a granny ?? !
wow !
let's invite her to join GN at once.
although not yet 50, she gets in on 100% granny-ness.
or perhaps she's already here amongst us.
i wonder what her username might be . . .

ronib

You serious MissAdventure ? Not very sure what to say …. 1.5 million new homes are urgently needed. AR is tasked to see their supply. Or is she?

14 years of Tory government and under investment is what is facing the country, and I don't think that AR taking a week's holiday while the HoC is in recess will make a huge difference do you, honestly?

petra

BevSec

Boris was one of the best P M , I thought he really cared about others.

PMSL 😂

In the words of John McEnroe "You cannot be serious"

BevSec

Boris was one of the best P M , I thought he really cared about others.

PMSL 😂

dalrymple23

Whatever happened to decorum? Or is that a non-u word?

How old fashioned. Decorum is boring, especially when you are on holiday.

The problem is, the country is in the sh*t, and sink8ng deeper and the so called deputy pm, who also holds at least one other position, is off dancing her heart out when she should be, sorting out the country

MissAdventure

She's probably young at heart, just like a lot of gransnet members are keen to say about themselves.

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