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Another long wait for justice

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J52 Thu 05-Sept-24 09:04:49

Grantanow

Angela Rayner is reported as being ' unhappy' with the rate of progress in removing unsafe cladding from buildings but what is she actually DOING about it?

Having just listened to Angela Raynor on Today, it would seem that the Current Government will be accelerating the removal of unsafe cladding, by way of legal action . The criminal proceedings are in the hands of the police. I expect there is a need for evidence to be cast iron so that those responsible are held fully responsible.
Of course, as with many things coming to light, the last Government were in control over the previous 7 years. Maybe the question should be ‘ what did they do to speed up the cladding removal

Babs03 Thu 05-Sept-24 09:00:24

keepingquiet

How much value do you put on lives lost through the negligence of others?

British justice is a farcical circus protecting those with the money to get representation. It isn't justice as I know it and it isn't fair.

I am always impressed by the dignity of the survivors and the families of the murdered, in the face of the those responsible trying to blame someone else and refusing to accept culpability.

We have people in this country blaming poor people for their anti-social behaviour yet dereliction of public duty and lack of accountability for monitoring standards in the service and manufacturing industries is far more anti-social.

We're living in the wild west where it doesn't matter if you break the law- there's always a way to wheedle your way out if you're part of the establishment.

Well said.

keepingquiet Thu 05-Sept-24 08:57:14

How much value do you put on lives lost through the negligence of others?

British justice is a farcical circus protecting those with the money to get representation. It isn't justice as I know it and it isn't fair.

I am always impressed by the dignity of the survivors and the families of the murdered, in the face of the those responsible trying to blame someone else and refusing to accept culpability.

We have people in this country blaming poor people for their anti-social behaviour yet dereliction of public duty and lack of accountability for monitoring standards in the service and manufacturing industries is far more anti-social.

We're living in the wild west where it doesn't matter if you break the law- there's always a way to wheedle your way out if you're part of the establishment.

Grantanow Thu 05-Sept-24 08:56:18

Angela Rayner is reported as being ' unhappy' with the rate of progress in removing unsafe cladding from buildings but what is she actually DOING about it?

Witzend Thu 05-Sept-24 08:41:51

TBH I’m appalled that it’s taken 7 years, and still nobody has properly been held accountable. Nor (AFAIK) have the building regs yet been changed from the ‘guidance’ builders are free to ignore.

And how much has this enquiry cost?? I absolutely dread to think.

Babs03 Thu 05-Sept-24 08:40:25

Btw didn’t address the OPs question - why it takes so long. I really haven’t a clue but obviously must be terrible for those mourning their loss, having this dragged out for years. My guess it that various parties/agencies being accused of negligence hire the very best legal representation to fight their corner and so it drags on.

Indigo8 Thu 05-Sept-24 08:36:18

Why does somebody always say something like "Lessons have been learned" about various tragedies and miscarriages of justice and then subsequent events prove that they haven't?

Babs03 Thu 05-Sept-24 08:30:24

Feel so sorry for those who lost loved ones in Grenfell and in any of these scandals who are still looking for justice.
They always say that this should never happen again but unless there is accountability for those involved of course it will happen again.
And for goodness sake let’s stop ignoring those who speak up or issue warnings.

Sarnia Thu 05-Sept-24 08:22:18

It's taken 7 years for the Grenfell Tower inquiry to publish its report. The Government, manufacturing companies, architects, building companies and the Fire Service all come in for a damning verdict on their part in this tragedy, with all 72 deaths being deemed avoidable. I hope those seeking justice realise they have decades of waiting and fighting in front of them. Hillsborough, The Post Office and Infected Blood scandals have shown that this country is unable to act swiftly to bring those responsible to book and to deliver justice to those who suffered and lost loved ones. Are other countries around the world as slow?