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Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-24 12:58:56

Back by no popular demand whatsoeveršŸ˜„šŸ˜„. Just to reiterate before I start, that most of my quotes are from the BBC or Guardian. Where they are from another source I will say, and also make it clear if I post my opinion.

Monday.

The first day of reality, for one of the oldest to one of the youngest new MPs

New politicians begin to settle down including one of the oldest, newest Labour MPs. ENT surgeon from East Anglia- Peter Prinsley – an eminent ear, nose and throat (ENT) surgeon.

With minimal help from Labour high command, Prinsley credits a gaggle of ā€œindefatigable local ladiesā€ for delivering his historic victory. He bought an old Post Office van, decorated it with photographs of himself in surgical scrubs, and spent the six-week campaign knocking on doors with the guaranteed conversation starter: ā€œI’m Peter from the hospital.ā€

At 66, Prinsley is one of the older first-timers in a parliament where 335 out of 650 MPs are new. ā€œYou know, when you go to the Houses of Parliament, the most amazing thing is how young everybody looks,ā€ ….. ā€œYou walk in there and you think: who has put the children in charge of the country?ā€

One of the youngest, and probably one of the ā€œchildrenā€ Prinsley was talking about is 24-year-old Josh Dean, a student who was still living at home with his mother when he became the first Labour MP for Hertford and Stortford. He was in his final year of a politics and international relations degree at the University of Westminster when the election was called and he cannot graduate until he finishes his dissertation – a comparative study of the technologies of control used in the ā€œwar on terrorā€ and the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

I didn’t go the traditional route into parliament, or through school or through work. And I think that diversity of experience is really valuable, actually.ā€

Freya5 Fri 06-Sept-24 14:00:23

Oreo

On the ā€˜irregular migration’ subject, tackling the smuggling gangs has already been tried and failed.I would want to know what’s the difference now?I should think that all the groups mentioned including MI5 were already involved before.

Absolutely. It comes down to demand and supply. If you stop the demand,you cut the supply. All those shopping and paying thousands to be smuggled into the UK are customers. If that's stopped, you chop the heads off the hydra, otherwise there will always be others to take their place,its easy money.
Belgium has succefully reduced their illegal immigration, one instance is a law which allows seizure of phones belonging to those attempting to cross, to extract data to help identify the smugglers. A good move. All Starmer will do is give more money to France, to do nothing, and where is the " new border force".? Did they sack someone already doing the job,now they can't replace them?

ronib Fri 06-Sept-24 13:58:10

Sorry not striking. Taking industrial action.

ronib Fri 06-Sept-24 13:55:33

The gps seem to be the next in line to strike?

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Sept-24 13:54:36

Thank you. True, I'm assuming they will follow the guidance of the BMA.

ronib Fri 06-Sept-24 13:43:43

The results of the junior doctors’ ballot are not in yet. FYI 19 September is listed as last day for voting.

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Sept-24 13:35:38

WWM I agree with your analysis on WFA and the need to seriously reconsider and I support the back benchers pushing to do so.

Quite a few šŸ‘ on railways, water, HoL, and the appointment of a person to head up Border Security Command.

No rose tinted specs here but after a summer of often quite wild gloom and doom hostile speculation from much of the MSM I welcome at last a chance to debate issues based on actual governance day by day,

and I see a serious government getting down to the nitty gritty of issues left hanging, unfinished, unpriced, not working, previous government.

I feel we have been too quick to forget that the doctor and teacher strikes were tackled as soon as possible - imagine an autumn and winter if they had continued - and the work done on the riots.

Now we can criticise them - try and amend policy where we feel they've got it wrong - on what they actually do as opposed what we have been told they will do all summer

twinnytwin Fri 06-Sept-24 13:21:54

ronib

spabbygirl maybe you need to widen your reading material?

And the rose tinted glasses discarded too.

Cossy Fri 06-Sept-24 13:16:49

winterwhite

The abrupt axeing of the WFA has turned out to be a reputational mistake. IMO it would be better to postpone it or at least stagger the introduction rather than have a vote.
šŸ‘šŸ‘ on the H of L and water.

I agree

Siope Fri 06-Sept-24 13:04:11

There are few countries that have a flat rate system (as the UK does). Many, including France, have a salary and contributions (a pay-roll tax) system.

In Germany, for example, the state pension guarantees 51% of an individual’s average earnings, and the payroll tax is 19%, half paid by employees, half by employers. In the US, social security is based on your 15 highest earning years (you have to have paid in for much longer to get the full amount, obviously).

France, as far as I understand it, has two types of compulsory pension, neither private.

The basic state pension pays a maximum of 50% of average earnings, and is based on the highest 25 years salary and how much was paid in social security contributions by employees and employers. Workers need to work for 42 years to get a full state pension. Plus, there is a range of compulsory occupational pensions where employees and employers have to contribute an extra amount, which work on a points system depending on someone’s salary and profession. Private pensions are rare.

If you look at what percentage of GDP countries spend on state pensions, the UK is absolutely one of the worst, spending about 4.5% (and that includes pension payment tax relief) compared to France’s 12% (Germany is about 8%, and the US 7%).

That’s broadly reflected in pensioner poverty, so about 16% of British pensioners (all of them, not just those only on state pensions) live in poverty, compared to 4% in France It’s 10% in Germany and a genuinely shocking 23% in the US - largely because of health care costs, I think, just in case you ever wondered if the NHS is worth it.

A 2022 government report (Pensions: international comparisons Research Briefing) found that even once state and private pensions were aggregated, the UK had a lower-than-average ā€œreplacement rateā€ than the average EU country. Replacement rate is a measure that compares pension earnings to previous income.

ā€œThe analysis shows that the UK has an overall net replacement rate of 58.1% from mandatory pensions for an average earner, below the OECD average of 69.1% and the EU average of 70.8%.ā€

Obviously, that will have increased a little because pensions rose above wage increases in 2023 and 2024, but it won’t be a significant change.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Sept-24 12:58:54

spabbygirl

Oreo

It is just a token action taken just to placate MP’s who have large Muslim constituencies.
That’s why it’s wrong.

It is, but that doesn't make it wrong.

I'm really pleased with the way the country is being run at present, I'm quite happy to loose my winter fuel allowance but in retrospect they should have taken it from higher rate tax payers only.

It feels so different reading the news now, there are no dramas and scandals but just common sense policies.

I'm glad the Labour landlord is changing his management company, no tenant should have to put up with that.

I do so agree. The sleaze and constant scandals are gone, and we seem to have a government that puts service before self.

ronib Fri 06-Sept-24 12:41:51

spabbygirl maybe you need to widen your reading material?

spabbygirl Fri 06-Sept-24 12:32:53

Oreo

It is just a token action taken just to placate MP’s who have large Muslim constituencies.
That’s why it’s wrong.

It is, but that doesn't make it wrong.

I'm really pleased with the way the country is being run at present, I'm quite happy to loose my winter fuel allowance but in retrospect they should have taken it from higher rate tax payers only.

It feels so different reading the news now, there are no dramas and scandals but just common sense policies.

I'm glad the Labour landlord is changing his management company, no tenant should have to put up with that.

Mamie Fri 06-Sept-24 12:15:09

Whitewavemark2

Mamie

I am always quite interested by the statement that UK state pensions are lower than the rest of Europe. I can't speak for other countries, but my French friends seem to have one pension pot which includes employment contributions. They are puzzled as to why we have two. I wonder if that makes the French one sound higher on average?

That was my opinion.

I’m happy to be corrected. 😊

It is something you see quoted quite often in the media too. I don't know the answer, but I do wonder if they are comparing like with like.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Sept-24 11:45:31

Mamie

I am always quite interested by the statement that UK state pensions are lower than the rest of Europe. I can't speak for other countries, but my French friends seem to have one pension pot which includes employment contributions. They are puzzled as to why we have two. I wonder if that makes the French one sound higher on average?

That was my opinion.

I’m happy to be corrected. 😊

Mamie Fri 06-Sept-24 10:12:18

I am always quite interested by the statement that UK state pensions are lower than the rest of Europe. I can't speak for other countries, but my French friends seem to have one pension pot which includes employment contributions. They are puzzled as to why we have two. I wonder if that makes the French one sound higher on average?

Oreo Fri 06-Sept-24 09:32:38

On the ā€˜irregular migration’ subject, tackling the smuggling gangs has already been tried and failed.I would want to know what’s the difference now?I should think that all the groups mentioned including MI5 were already involved before.

Oreo Fri 06-Sept-24 09:28:36

It is just a token action taken just to placate MP’s who have large Muslim constituencies.
That’s why it’s wrong.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Sept-24 03:59:13

Israel - Gaza

David Cameron, the former foreign secretary, sat on advice from Foreign Office officials in Israel and London that there was clear evidence of breaches of international humanitarian law in Gaza for which the UK risked being complicit, a former Foreign Commonwealth and Development Office (FCDO) adviser said.
The source, who contributed to the drafting of the advice, was speaking after the Labour government banned 30 of about 350 arms export licences due to a clear risk cited in a government memorandum published on Monday that they might be used in serious breaches of international humanitarian law.

Israeli sources admit relations with the UK are increasingly strained, but at present they do not predict Netanyahu taking practical reprisals against the UK.
All UK components for the F-35 fighter jet programme would be almost entirely excluded from the ban, which is seen as a significant loophole by pro-Palestinian groups. By keeping British components to the F-35s out of the embargo, the UK hopes to minimise anger in Washington.

The FCDO source said wider lessons needed to be drawn from the internal handling of the issue. The source said: ā€œIsrael highlights vital lessons globally for arms companies and countries which grant export licences as part of elaborate trade deals. The reality is that none of these licences are granted in isolation of other business and political interests, and are enmeshed with other forms of trade technology exchanges and security equity.ā€

IMO. I’ve yet to read any USA reaction to this decision.?

I suspect that this will be viewed as no more than a token action, and whether this placates the unease being felt in large parts of the country over this issue remains to be seen.

I noticed that when Netanyahu stood beside a map of the area explaining the issue from his perspective, he had totally written out the West Bank. This was most certainly not an oversight, and a deliberate message to the far right and extremist settlers in Israel.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Sept-24 03:46:35

Tackling criminal gangs who smuggle asylum seekers into the U.K.

Yvette Cooper will chair a summit aimed at apprehending criminal gangs involved in smuggling people across the Channel in small boats, as the Home Office disclosed that MI5 officers had been given a key role in operations.
Intelligence officers, Border Force staff and Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) representatives will be present at the meeting on Friday at the National Crime Agency’s headquarters.

A Home Office statement said: ā€œThe UK intelligence community (UKIC) are deploying formidable covert capability to support the NCA to penetrate and dismantle the gangs at every level of operation, from facilitators to financiers.ā€

In a further development around the government’s plans to stop irregular migration, Downing Street said the head of the government’s new Border Security Command would be named within weeks.
The prime minister’s official spokesperson said: ā€œOne of the first things that the government did was to launch the recruitment campaign for the border security commander. We obviously want to have the most skilled person possible in the role. The process has been thorough and we expect to provide an update on that in the coming weeks.ā€

IMO there are two things that would go a long way to mitigate the hardship and deaths being suffered by these people seeking sanctuary in our shores.

The first is simply to provide safe passage after, an initial assessment on French shores (if France would be so kind)
Resources should be put into getting the cases (backlog) and current dealt with swiftly and the ability to work whilst their case is being considered would be beneficial for the asylum seeker snd taxpayer alike.

The second is to firm up on the regulatory work place. It seems that it is very easy to find work and get ā€œlostā€ in our system. This needs to change to discourage those simply seeking better economic arrangements, and doing so illegally.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 06-Sept-24 03:27:11

WFA

ā€œThe Labour government has confirmed that there will be a binding vote on whether to axe the winter fuel allowance for all but the poorest pensioners, as the former shadow chancellor Ed Balls said he had grave doubts about the decision.
The confirmation of the vote comes amid growing unease within the party about backing the plans. It will take place next Tuesday after the Conservatives submitted a motion to annul the government’s change to regulations – a change that ordinarily would not be subject to a vote. Labour had said previously there would be no vote on the measure.

In a sign of unrest in the parliamentary party, a number of Labour MPs have signed an early day motion asking for the change to be reconsidered and given more time to be communicated.
The motion was submitted by the new Labour MP for Poole, Neil Duncan-Jordan, who previously worked for the biggest pensioner pressure group, the National Pensioners Convention. The Guardian understands that MPs have attended briefings given by Duncan-Jordan on the implications of the change.

After the Commons leader, Lucy Powell, confirmed on Thursday that a vote would be held, the Labour MP Rachael Maskell urged a rethink of the proposed cuts.ā€

IMO I think that Reeves has been badly advised by the treasury over this issue. The optics and eventually the actuality of the potential consequences (none of us need telling what happens to the elderly if they don’t heat their home) are almost certainly going to grow teeth and come back to bite Reeves. But I think she has not shown political savvy over this, and unless she finds a way out this will not end well.

There is no doubt thst as a universal benefit, it was money badly spent, and many pensioners simply don’t need it. But the state pension in the U.K. is far from generous when compared to our European neighbours, and the fact that this cut will mean an unacceptable level of hardship for many elderly should shame us.

Wyllow3 Fri 06-Sept-24 00:20:15

Thank you so much for starting this up again, WWM2. Really appreciated.

I'm hoping for the WFA to be revised (not dropped).

Good on several points as noted above.

Allira Fri 06-Sept-24 00:02:33

Whitewavemark2

Wednesday

At her first Treasury questions, Reeves confirmed pensioners receiving housing benefit would automatically get any pension credit they are due. She has already extended the household support fund for the poorest households.
She repeatedly told MPs that increases to the basic state pension meant that people would be substantially better off than a year ago, adding that the government was committed to further increases in the coming years.
ā€œThe basic state pension is worth Ā£900 more than it was a year ago and will go up again in April next year because of the triple lock, which we have committed to for the duration of this parliament,ā€ she said.

That claim needs to be taken with a big pinch of salt.

It may be true for some but not for the many state pensioners.

biglouis Thu 05-Sept-24 23:29:18

Tenants were afraid to speak to reporters and asked for their names to be witheld. They were reluctant to go to the council about the conditions in their flats. They were also told that if they applied for benefit they would be evicted. Dont we have legislation to deal with "revenge" evictions?

Mollygo Thu 05-Sept-24 20:29:40

Will be following the progress of the landlord and his actions closely.
Although I was surprised Starmer kept an MP who has been causing people harm /allowing harm to be caused, in order to increase his own personal wealth, its will be easier to monitor whether or not he does improve the homes he is renting out.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 05-Sept-24 20:10:40

blue14

Thank you for starting up this thread again WWM2.
I know that by reading this I will learn a great deal about our new Labour government.
I’m aware it must take up a great deal of your time and it is appreciated.

😊