The bravery of Gisele Pelicot.

Well said, 00opsidia. It's such a horrific case that it's almost impossible to imagine what this poor woman went through. These abusers can be so cunning and manipulative.

So all this was filmed? How did the truth come out? I'm sorry I haven't been following this story. It sounds horrendous.

That was my feeling too oops. It is beyond peoples comprehension as they’ve not experienced it themselves. I think she would have believed it to be true 🥲 I suppose if there wasn’t video evidence would she have carried on being abused and not knowing any different?

Gaslighting in the extreme, I read :-

He said his client, now divorced, had believed she had an illness nobody could explain and consulted several doctors, always accompanied by her husband, who blamed her symptoms on tiredness after looking after their grandchildren. Her three children and other relatives suspected she had Alzheimer’s disease.

If people have never been in an abusive relationship, I don't think they realise just how these extremely plausible and often charming (to others) men cover all their tracks and gaslight so their victim feels she has something wrong with her mind. They gaslight the victim and lie about her to hide what they have done.

flappergirl

This is a very curious case. Mrs Pelicot was drugged and raped by up to 80 men over the course of 10 long years, during which time she contracted several sexually transmitted diseases. No matter how careful her husband instructed these men to be (no aftershave, keeping their hands warm etc) there would have been discharge, bruising, soreness and thrush along with the effects of the drug itself. The sexually transmitted diseases would also have produced symptoms.

Mrs Pelicot has insisted in court that her marriage was happy and secure and that she always considered her husband to be a good man. Yet she had an affair for 2 years which rather contradicts these statements.

I think this case is rather more complex than it seems (if that's even possible).

I agree with you, maybe more will come out about this.🤔

It has really disturbed me, completely beyond my comprehension that there are such devils out there!

He is obviously a very abusive man, so who knows? Maybe she thought they were off him and was just accepting of it?

What I can’t understand is if she had contracted 4 sexually transmitted diseases and she knew she hadn’t been unfaithful to her husband where was she thinking these diseases came from !!!

Poor woman
Makes you wonder if this happens to others if most of the men involved thought it was acceptable. I only say ‘most’ as some of those involved have admitted they knew it was wrong. A further 22 men haven’t even been identified or charged

This is a very curious case. Mrs Pelicot was drugged and raped by up to 80 men over the course of 10 long years, during which time she contracted several sexually transmitted diseases. No matter how careful her husband instructed these men to be (no aftershave, keeping their hands warm etc) there would have been discharge, bruising, soreness and thrush along with the effects of the drug itself. The sexually transmitted diseases would also have produced symptoms.

Mrs Pelicot has insisted in court that her marriage was happy and secure and that she always considered her husband to be a good man. Yet she had an affair for 2 years which rather contradicts these statements.

I think this case is rather more complex than it seems (if that's even possible).

Sago of course rape wouldn’t be the first thing that would come to mind, but if it was ongoing, or kept happening, I’d definitely have spoken to someone (e.g. my doctor) about it. She didn’t. It is simply a puzzling aspect of this case.

I do feel very sorry for her.

Rosie51

^this wasn’t marital rape^ Whilst the vast majority was rape by others some of the photos showed her husband using her for sex while she was drugged, therefore marital rape was a component as she couldn't consent.

I know it wasn't all marital rape, though some of it was, but I mean that if she was sore from the other men, because she didn't know they existed, perhaps she thought it was him? How else could she explain her state? (She had to have been bruised or had some physical symptoms?)

Women who suffer marital rape probably don't think anyone will believe them because it's their word against his (and he might be a very plausible person) So although she might have thought something wasn't ok, she might not have known what to do or had anyone to talk to, and no proof anything untoward had happened.

I agree it's not just marital rape but multiple rape, but she didn't know that, so I mean she probably chalked it up to him being insatiable.

this wasn’t marital rape Whilst the vast majority was rape by others some of the photos showed her husband using her for sex while she was drugged, therefore marital rape was a component as she couldn't consent.

I can't even begin to imagine what these two women went through. Civilisation has gone tits up in my opinion.

What a strange strange case Surely if this was going on over 10 years she must have been pretty sore and it says she has four different sexual diseases wasnt she backwards and forwards to the doctor Didn’t she wonder where these diseases were coming from She says she was happily married didn’t she even suspect her husband of playing away and giving her a STD
Poor lady, there were some neighbours of hers too, her husband is completely depraved
Yes marital rape is a very real thing but this wasn’t marital rape she wasn’t married to these men Her husband was pimping her without her knowledge but she seemed happy with him until it all came out He must have been a real Jeckel and Hyde character he was making her happy in the daytime and harming her at night So really strange

She may have thought it was her husband and been too embarassed to tell anyone. He may have told her it was him.

Marital rape IS a thing

It's not a thing that most people want to hear about or consider, sadly. If it was less of a stigma, perhaps victims could recieve support.

Retread

I agree that it is shocking. I've not read it all, too upsetting.

I've been struggling to understand how she could not have realised in the morning that sexual intercourse had occurred? The question is genuinely puzzling to me (I'm not blaming her).

Would you ever wake up in the morning with an uncomfortable vagina and wonder if you had been drugged and raped?
No you would probably think you had vaginal atrophy or an infection.

Her husband went to great lengths to make sure she never suspected, the rapists were told not to smoke or wear cologne before arriving, their hands were run under taps to warm them etc, I’m sure her husband “ cleaned her up” afterwards.

This poor woman had no idea what was happening.

Yes, that’s what I mean.

Retread

I agree that it is shocking. I've not read it all, too upsetting.

I've been struggling to understand how she could not have realised in the morning that sexual intercourse had occurred? The question is genuinely puzzling to me (I'm not blaming her).

I too have wondered this. Being drugged and raped to such an extent would surely leave some evidence (for want of a better word).

I agree that it is shocking. I've not read it all, too upsetting.

I've been struggling to understand how she could not have realised in the morning that sexual intercourse had occurred? The question is genuinely puzzling to me (I'm not blaming her).

It’s the weirdest case I’ve ever come across.

What a brave, brave lady - well done

None of the men were decent as they would not have been there, I did not realise such depravity existed. Her whole life a lie,, What about her children? Her husband should bd jailed for the rest of his life, the participants for 20 years.

💔💔💔

Such an evil man.

Yes I imagine she was gaslighted. This is mental and emotional rape as well as physical. I always thought that no one knows what goes on in a marriage except the couple, but I had no idea that monsters like this existed.

Imagine being married to man for 50 years and then suffering this heinous experience at his hands. There are no words.