Laura Kuenssberg

Yes, a provocative and completely incorrect statement.
Unless the doctor’s payments are part of the black hole. The money has to come from somewhere, and if there isn’t any because of the black hole . . .

I thought Starmer was very relaxed and assured.

He is a person in command whatever you may think of his policies.

Is LK not well? I thought she looked dreadfully tired.

Tough decisions are tough decisions.

I agree, Whitewavemark2. Starmer seemed to enjoy the opportunity to be interviewed and, at least once, persisted with his point despite LK'S attempts to interrupt.

Yes, I also thought Ms. Kuenssberg looked tired and drawn, too.

I thought Starmer looked extremely self-satisfied and smug, positively relishing stating he was prepared to take unpopular decisions for the sake of the country, (but not where train drivers and junior doctors are concerned,)

eazybee

I thought Starmer looked extremely self-satisfied and smug, positively relishing stating he was prepared to take unpopular decisions for the sake of the country, (but not where train drivers and junior doctors are concerned,)

Unpopular decisions affecting pensioners, certainly.
*He certainly seems to be trying to make sure that none of the pensioners affected will be left to vote against him next time, since I learnt today on GN that pensioners voted Conservatives in last time.
A sweeping statement relying on statistics, which we know can be manipulated to prove whatever point you want to make.

Surprising, if GN is reflective of all pensioners (it isn’t).

Unsurprising that anyone including pensioners were fed up after 13 years of LP mismanagement (even without Brexit and Covid).

Mollygo you mean CP mismanagement? Although at the moment, it looks as if Sunak and Hunt are preferable….

ronib

Mollygo you mean CP mismanagement? Although at the moment, it looks as if Sunak and Hunt are preferable….

Only because they knew how important the pensioner vote was for the tories and had no intention of upsetting them.

Sadly for them, they didn't realise that not all pensioners are self interested, or that their self interest extended to deep concern about the crumbling NHS, over which the CP has presided, on which they become more dependent as they get older.

MaizieD I read somewhere that the Labour Party has been accepting large donations from private health companies. I think in The Canary. Does that go under the sleaze column?

I did watch part of the interview and Starmer was uncomfortable, he had better get used to that , it’s only going to get worse.
It’s not a courtroom where everybody is polite and reasonable, he was the new broom to solve everyone problems, now we have to pay, the buck stops with him.

For what it’s worth I agree with the changes he is making, I’m just glad it’s not me taking the flack and why I dont get involved in politics.

Court rooms can be brutal. Certain,y not places where everyone is polite and reasonable

MaizieD

Go read about the state the LP left the NHS in, and that was with fewer people.
I wouldn’t have wanted Tories back in and didn’t vote to try and achieve that. I didn’t endorse everything they did, but that doesn’t mean I have to be protective of the LP. I don’t understand why that defend the LP from any criticism attitude seems to be so prevalent on here.

Don’t worry Mollygo the unions will sort out this mess. We’re completely helpless on social media - it’s all a game really.

Mollygo

MaizieD

Go read about the state the LP left the NHS in, and that was with fewer people.
I wouldn’t have wanted Tories back in and didn’t vote to try and achieve that. I didn’t endorse everything they did, but that doesn’t mean I have to be protective of the LP. I don’t understand why that defend the LP from any criticism attitude seems to be so prevalent on here.

The problem with the NHS is we all want everything we want instantly and we are not prepared to pay for it, the demand is unlimited.

Unless there is some kind of rationing the NHS will NEVER meet demand

Yes argybargy, BREXIT gets forever to sort itself out, but Starmer gets how long?
Also, give LK a break. She is missing Boris.

Maremia

Yes argybargy, BREXIT gets forever to sort itself out, but Starmer gets how long?
Also, give LK a break. She is missing Boris.

That’s mean. LK never supported Boris.

I always watch the Laura K show on a Sunday morning and think she's very good, so pleased she made the comment re almost half of the so called black hole results from pay rises labour awarded since coming to power.
Starmer and Reeve's comments re helping the 'working people' worry me as I think, so far, it seems to exclude pensioners who have probably worked all their lives.

argymargy

Wow, we’re a couple of months in to a new government and shock horror it hasn’t fixed everything yet!!

Well we’re 8 years into Brexit but we must give it time….

I so agree argymargy, this gov't have had long. I love some of the things they're doing though, reforming the House of Lords, water company bosses in prison if they pay shareholders without fixing the infrastructure, I also like prisoners coming out early cos prison does nothing to stop reoffending & I think community based rehabilitation is better.
I think with the winter fuel allowance they should have just stopped it to higher rate taxpayers, I don't mind loosing mine especially if I can have a better NHS, thats a bargain

I wonder if you'd like prisoners being released early if you'd been attacked by one of these men. And they will be mostly men.

Also, the removal of 90 hereditary peers is not going to make any difference to any of us .

I think that you and I live in parallel universes, Mollygo

Final paragraph of Laura Kerunsberg's article:...
"Given that the Conservatives were in charge for 14 years, it is not just politically convenient for Labour to blame them for the country’s problems, but legitimate - to a great extent. Labour has not yet had 100 days in office, the Conservatives had nearly a decade and a half."

Mollygo

MaizieD

Go read about the state the LP left the NHS in, and that was with fewer people.
I wouldn’t have wanted Tories back in and didn’t vote to try and achieve that. I didn’t endorse everything they did, but that doesn’t mean I have to be protective of the LP. I don’t understand why that defend the LP from any criticism attitude seems to be so prevalent on here.

That is nonsense. The NHS was in a far more robust state in 2010 that it is now. Estate, facilities, waiting times, access to emergency care, mental health services have all deteriorated very significantly.
www.kingsfund.org.uk/insight-and-analysis/reports/rise-and-decline-nhs-in-england-2000-20#:~:text=Multi%2Dyear%20funding%20increases%20and,and%20neglect%20of%20workforce%20planning.
Of course, nobody is ever happy that the NHS is meeting all the targets, so comparative measurement is the only way of tracking.

Could I just point out that the 4 hour wait in A&E wasn't quite what it seemed. We just used to move patients to another waiting room.

NHS is pretty much doomed . Impossible for it to work. At least Keir is open to using private facilities.

Private hospitals have been used to provide NHS treatment for patients for some time.

ronib

Private hospitals have been used to provide NHS treatment for patients for some time.

Well aware. Worked there long enough. Tony Blair's baby.