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Laura Kuenssberg

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Mollygo Sat 07-Sept-24 23:40:36

I don’t generally like Laura Kuenssberg, but her comment about the beginning of Starmer and this government’s term in office seems fairly accurate. And the heading at the top is true.
www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx28d72948vo.amp

Mt61 Sun 08-Sept-24 00:41:24

Lucky for us we don’t have a license, sure my friends who voted labour, who now wish they hadn’t have bothered, will have a grumble when they call for coffee & I’ll get to know all the ins & outs of what’s going on.

ronib Sun 08-Sept-24 06:26:19

You have my respect Laura K. In fact I am pleased and surprised by your analysis. Don’t let up.

Tuaim Sun 08-Sept-24 06:33:03

Let's face it, the world is pretty knackered and so is our country. No one will be able to fix the mess. They may be able to appease the voters somewhat. Too much of one thing and too little of another. The golden days will never return and we can play the blame game as much as we want but everyone wants a slice of today's world be it Labour, Conservative, or whoever and unless we put something on the table how can we expect to take from it.

M0nica Sun 08-Sept-24 07:20:29

As I have said, ad nauseum< i have never voted for either of the main parties, but I think people have very short memories because:

a) Labour aint perfect, but are you really suggesting that the shambolic, deeply corrupt, incompetent, shower who preceded them, would actually be any better? The last election did not vote Labour in. It voted the Conservatives out, and for very good reason.

b) For at least the first five years every new government blames their predecessor for everything that goes wrong. It is standard practice, everywhere. Starmer et al are doing exacly what any change of government does in the UK, and for that matter every other country in the world. I expect even Putin uses the argument at times.

When I was working, whenever any one left the company I would always tell them, that for at least 6 months after they left they would be blamed for anything that went wrong.

Tuam There have never been any 'golden days', except when people look backwards - and some years from now people will look back and see now as the 'golden days'

argymargy Sun 08-Sept-24 07:25:53

Wow, we’re a couple of months in to a new government and shock horror it hasn’t fixed everything yet!!

Well we’re 8 years into Brexit but we must give it time….

escaped Sun 08-Sept-24 07:28:42

Irrelevant, but important comment warning ......

A new kitten for Starmer? Is Larry the cat banished, or even worse, then?

J52 Sun 08-Sept-24 07:33:04

MOnica I agree with your point a) . What choice was there? More of the same, not after the past 14 years. None of the smaller parties were up to the job.

escaped Sun 08-Sept-24 07:36:46

A good article from LK. Thank you @Mollygo.
Yes, I'm a bit sick of continually hearing about the mess inherited and the black hole now. It's getting tiresome. I think it was yesterday I heard Starmer applying it to the NHS again. The trouble is, it's now getting so boring and tedious to listen to as an opening party piece, that I switch off listening to any of the comments with real substance. 🥱

Mollygo Sun 08-Sept-24 08:28:45

M0nica
Thanks for your post.

a) Labour aint perfect, but are you really suggesting that the shambolic, deeply corrupt, incompetent, shower who preceded them, would actually be any better?^

This chant goes on ad nauseam.
Where has anyone said or suggested that they would be better?
However, dismissing all CP MPs that way is sweeping and inaccurate, like saying all LP MPs are like the owner of the substandard flats.
I doubt anyone would defend Boris et al, but if you had a hard working local Conservative MP you would be sorry to exchange that for an MP of a different party.

However, the constant need to defend this government from any criticism on GN is weird and makes them appear weak.

The last election did not vote Labour in. It voted the Conservatives out, and for very good reason.

I agree, and the previous election voted Labour out after 13 years for very good reason.

b) For at least the first five years every new government blames their predecessor for everything that goes wrong. It is standard practice, everywhere.

Thank you. I have been saying that ever since the election. Hopefully, your statement will be acknowledged as the truth and won’t be greeted with immediate defence of the LP.

keepingquiet Sun 08-Sept-24 08:50:43

argymargy

Wow, we’re a couple of months in to a new government and shock horror it hasn’t fixed everything yet!!

Well we’re 8 years into Brexit but we must give it time….

Well said!

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 09:16:52

escaped

Irrelevant, but important comment warning ......

A new kitten for Starmer? Is Larry the cat banished, or even worse, then?

I think Larry will continue to rule the roost against the Russian invader, or at least that he teaches the usurper his/her rightful place in the pecking order.

He put Freya in her place.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 08-Sept-24 09:19:46

Read the Darzi report, and then say that the Tories are not to blame for the state of the NHS. It started back at the very beginning of their term in office - disastrous from the word “go”

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 09:24:07

Mollygo

I don’t generally like Laura Kuenssberg, but her comment about the beginning of Starmer and this government’s term in office seems fairly accurate. And the heading at the top is true.
www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx28d72948vo.amp

Her concluding paragraph is:

Given that the Conservatives were in charge for 14 years, it is not just politically convenient for Labour to blame them for the country’s problems, but legitimate - to a great extent. Labour has not yet had 100 days in office, the Conservatives had nearly a decade and a half.

Pippa000 Sun 08-Sept-24 09:31:21

It should be noted that the Darzi report only relates to NHS England. It would be interesting for a notable person to do a report on the state of the NHS in Wales which has been under labour control for the last 25 years. Longer waiting lists than England for a start.

Mollygo Sun 08-Sept-24 09:33:20

Allira-I know. I didn’t cut anything from the report.

Allira Sun 08-Sept-24 09:35:40

Mollygo

Allira-I know. I didn’t cut anything from the report.

It's a good, considered report, I think, Mollygo.

Eileen Sun 08-Sept-24 10:16:24

If Starmer had been a teacher would he be looking at this class of 5 year olds and saying but they are illiterate! They can’t read or write 🥴.

Mollygo Sun 08-Sept-24 11:24:14

Eileen

If Starmer had been a teacher would he be looking at this class of 5 year olds and saying but they are illiterate! They can’t read or write 🥴.

No, he’d be talking about Surestart, ignoring all the support that has been set up and is being accessed by parents and children now.
He’d probably be hoping Ofsted don’t arrive yet, and judge him on what they consider to be lack of achievement. (Did you know that you can have an OFSTED visit in the first term, which looks at the progress made agains the EYFS targets?)
🤣🤣🤣

Fartooold Sun 08-Sept-24 19:20:19

The country is in a mess, we are all going to have to pay for it. It is going to take years ( longer than 14 years) and it’s going to be painful!

kittylester Sun 08-Sept-24 19:36:34

Is Starmer the man to do it though?

Rekarie Sun 08-Sept-24 19:53:12

The whole of the western world is in a mess. I see comments on social media from all over Europe and USA. It's really not any government's fault.

I was optimistic about the change in government but now I ask myself why.

And no, I don't think Starmer's up to this job. Maybe we will get a change of PM to keep up the bonkers tradition of the Conservatives.

Starmer needs to lay off the doom and gloom as well.

Poor form

Ilovecheese Sun 08-Sept-24 20:00:05

I noticed that in today's programme, Laura K was trying to pit pensioners against public servants by suggesting that the winter fuel allowance had to be stopped to put some money towards doctors pay.

HousePlantQueen Sun 08-Sept-24 20:42:59

Ilovecheese

I noticed that in today's programme, Laura K was trying to pit pensioners against public servants by suggesting that the winter fuel allowance had to be stopped to put some money towards doctors pay.

Yes, a provocative and completely incorrect statement.

eazybee Mon 09-Sept-24 06:54:24

You think?