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Hezbollah Exploding Pagers!

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GrannyGravy13 Wed 18-Sept-24 08:36:12

9 dead (so far) up to 3,000 Hezbollah operatives injured across Lebanon and Syria.

Apparently the pagers were manufactured in TaiWan and packed with explosives. The Taiwanese producers are vehemently denying this.

Israeli Government is being rather quiet, no statement so far. Hezbollah have said that there will be serious repercussions

It is like a plot from a Johnny English film…

Philippa60 Thu 26-Sept-24 13:42:47

Allira

Philippa60

I think it is 100,000 Israelis evacuated from the north, but if it's important to you I can check.
Again: Israel does not target civilians. Full stop.
Israel is a western democracy with a robust judiciary, democratic parliament, superb medical, hi-tech and other industries. It is a liberal country where you can be gay, straight, Jewish, Arab, Christian and you have full and equal rights.
Hizbollah is a terror organization reigning terror not only on Israel but on the citizens of Lebanon.
If you cannot see the difference, I despair of trying to convince you, my friends.

Philippa60 the BBC News last night reported on Israeli towns in the north near the border with Lebanon which are practically deserted because of the constant rocket and sniper attacks by Hezbollah on Israel.

The BBC also broadcast the horrifying testimonies of some who escaped the atrocities by drugged-up Hamas terrorists at the music festival, the anniversary of which approaches.

The news is not all one-sided here.

It's also worth remembering some of the aims of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah and their intolerance of groups of people.
I try to keep a balanced view; many Israelis do not support Netanyahu who seems hell-bent on revenge at any cost.

I can feel for all the innocent people on all sides in this conflict.

Stay safe.

Thank you, Allira, I really appreciate your kind wishes

Philippa60 Thu 26-Sept-24 13:25:35

Believe me I hate war and long for a ceasefire, both on our north and south borders. However, the idea of a 3 week ceasefire with nothing in return doesn't sit well with many Israelis. It sounds like all it will do is give Hizbollah 3 weeks to re-group following the serious losses they have had.
A ceasefire in return for Hizbollah finally accepting US Resolution 1701 and moving north away from our border as mandated, a return of all our hostages in Gaza? Absolutely 100% yes, ceasefire now!
But not sure what it means to ceasefire without either of these provisions?
Does it make sense to anyone else?
Have Hizbollah suddenly agreed to stop firing missiles into the whole of Israel (not just the north any more)?
Or do we just give them a 3-week break and then it all starts up again?
No-one wants this nightmare to end more than me, I can assure you. But right now I simply don't understand what's going on.
I truly hope that Biden, Macron and other leaders in the international community know what they are doing

GrannyGravy13 Thu 26-Sept-24 10:17:43

full not fall 😡

GrannyGravy13 Thu 26-Sept-24 10:17:19

SKY News are now reporting that Netanyahu has instructed his troops to continue fighting at fall power

Allira Thu 26-Sept-24 10:03:06

Philippa60

I think it is 100,000 Israelis evacuated from the north, but if it's important to you I can check.
Again: Israel does not target civilians. Full stop.
Israel is a western democracy with a robust judiciary, democratic parliament, superb medical, hi-tech and other industries. It is a liberal country where you can be gay, straight, Jewish, Arab, Christian and you have full and equal rights.
Hizbollah is a terror organization reigning terror not only on Israel but on the citizens of Lebanon.
If you cannot see the difference, I despair of trying to convince you, my friends.

Philippa60 the BBC News last night reported on Israeli towns in the north near the border with Lebanon which are practically deserted because of the constant rocket and sniper attacks by Hezbollah on Israel.

The BBC also broadcast the horrifying testimonies of some who escaped the atrocities by drugged-up Hamas terrorists at the music festival, the anniversary of which approaches.

The news is not all one-sided here.

It's also worth remembering some of the aims of groups such as Hamas and Hezbollah and their intolerance of groups of people.
I try to keep a balanced view; many Israelis do not support Netanyahu who seems hell-bent on revenge at any cost.

I can feel for all the innocent people on all sides in this conflict.

Stay safe.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 26-Sept-24 09:48:48

Oh I do hope this happens FGT2 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 26-Sept-24 09:47:25

“A 21-day ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah is set to be implemented “in the coming hours” along the Israel-Lebanon border, senior officials have reportedly said.

It comes as Britain, the United States and other allies on Wednesday jointly called for an immediate truce to allow for negotiations in the escalating conflict that has seen more than 600 people killed in Lebanon in recent days.

The ceasefire would effectively halt a possible Israeli ground operation in Lebanon, which has raised global alarm.

According to Sky News, a US administration official said: “The ceasefire will be for 21 days along the blue line (demarcation line dividing Lebanon from Israel and the Golan Heights).

“During those 21 days, the parties will negotiate towards a potential resolution of the conflict that has been ongoing since Hezbollah launched the attack on October 8, and to reach a comprehensive agreement along the blue line that allows for residents to return to their home in both Lebanon and Israel.”

The ceasefire is expected to be put in place along the northern border only and would not extend to Gaza.”

GrannyGravy13 Thu 26-Sept-24 08:26:00

eggplant

*he is giving people a chance*

Unbelievable really.

Please tell us on here what chance Hezbollah and Hamas terrorists gave and/are giving Israeli civilians?

Galaxy Thu 26-Sept-24 08:18:40

Sshh Philippa dont you know those sort of things arent important in the hierarchy of oppression. When people are wanting to be seen as virtuous the ideals that they used to think important (not killing gay people for example) can be jettisoned without a backward glance.

eggplant Thu 26-Sept-24 08:06:45

he is giving people a chance

Unbelievable really.

silverlining48 Thu 26-Sept-24 07:55:06

60,000 was the figure given on this mornings Today programme.

Philippa60 Thu 26-Sept-24 05:58:33

I think it is 100,000 Israelis evacuated from the north, but if it's important to you I can check.
Again: Israel does not target civilians. Full stop.
Israel is a western democracy with a robust judiciary, democratic parliament, superb medical, hi-tech and other industries. It is a liberal country where you can be gay, straight, Jewish, Arab, Christian and you have full and equal rights.
Hizbollah is a terror organization reigning terror not only on Israel but on the citizens of Lebanon.
If you cannot see the difference, I despair of trying to convince you, my friends.

David49 Wed 25-Sept-24 22:00:15

growstuff

Oreo

eggplant

Hundreds of thousands of people have fled southern Lebanon to escape Israeli bombs

The Guardian, despised by many.

Think about it, hundreds of thousands. They can't all be Hezbollah.

200,000 displaced Israeli citizens have had to leave Northern Israel in the north near the border.Think about that too.

Where did you find that figure?

There is exaggerated propaganda on both sides you can’t believe any of it, virtually nothing can be verified

Freshair Wed 25-Sept-24 21:58:42

If you vote in a terrorist organisation to government, that's what they are. Palestinians and Lebanonese people will have to live with their decision

growstuff Wed 25-Sept-24 21:47:56

Oreo

eggplant

Hundreds of thousands of people have fled southern Lebanon to escape Israeli bombs

The Guardian, despised by many.

Think about it, hundreds of thousands. They can't all be Hezbollah.

200,000 displaced Israeli citizens have had to leave Northern Israel in the north near the border.Think about that too.

Where did you find that figure?

Wyllow3 Wed 25-Sept-24 21:36:50

But is it wise to attack Lebanon to the extent that the many Lebanese who do not support Hezbollah now face what many must fear happened in Gaza?

Floradora9 Wed 25-Sept-24 21:28:32

I wish people would realise that the Lebanese people are controlled by Hezbollah . They are in the parliament and if they decide to do something they just do it regardless f the consequences . I know people who live there and they loath Hezbollah . At times they have closed the airport and when I ask why the reply is ' Because they can " . No reason to do it at all they are just showing their strength.

Oreo Wed 25-Sept-24 20:54:05

eggplant

*Hundreds of thousands of people have fled southern Lebanon to escape Israeli bombs*

The Guardian, despised by many.

Think about it, hundreds of thousands. They can't all be Hezbollah.

200,000 displaced Israeli citizens have had to leave Northern Israel in the north near the border.Think about that too.

Wyllow3 Wed 25-Sept-24 20:38:29

They not only warned some people in Gaza to move out of Rafah, but told them where to go to be safe.
They then attacked the area.

Many examples from this time:

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/29/rafah-safe-area-humanitarian-zone-palestinians-israel

babs5403 Wed 25-Sept-24 20:33:34

It's actually a pretty clever idea but shame it had to get to that.

silverlining48 Wed 25-Sept-24 19:59:41

It doesn’t help giving warnings to people who have nowhere to hide. He does no one any favours apart from saving his own worthless hide from standing trial for crimes he is accused of.
Netanyahu is an absolute disgrace.

paddyann54 Wed 25-Sept-24 19:46:53

Phillipa60 so you deny that Israel has been targeting Palestinians for over 60 years ? The propaganda from the Israeli state is indeed thorough but without a doubt it is wrong .I marchwith pro Palestinians and have done for decades…many who march areof the Jewish faith.THey are vehemently against the states policies of landgrabbingand forcing out Palestinian families or the over 2000 Palestinian children in Israeli jails ,some for throwing STONES at tanks .I think the world is beginning to weary of the victim mentality of SOME Jews the people alive today cannot and should not be held responsible for the holocaust. to make them suffer is downright wicked.Palestinian children are as important as Israeli children.I am NOT antisemitic. But I am anti the right wing vicious Israeli state

GrannyGravy13 Wed 25-Sept-24 18:25:09

eggplant

*Hundreds of thousands of people have fled southern Lebanon to escape Israeli bombs*

The Guardian, despised by many.

Think about it, hundreds of thousands. They can't all be Hezbollah.

Netanyahu advised people to leave Southern Lebanon yesterday.

I do not agree with everything he does, but at least he is giving people a chance, Hezbollah, Hamas and other terrorists do not give warnings of their atrocities.

Unfortunately the Israelis are playing right into the hands of Iran, it’s their regime we should be worried about.

(I know the IRA did Gove coded warnings)

mae13 Wed 25-Sept-24 18:09:41

How much more out of control can Israel get? Now Jordan have issued a warning not to cross that regions border, but Netanyahu is a madman so he'll ignore any warnings.

eggplant Wed 25-Sept-24 17:56:38

Hundreds of thousands of people have fled southern Lebanon to escape Israeli bombs

The Guardian, despised by many.

Think about it, hundreds of thousands. They can't all be Hezbollah.