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Am I alone in finding this so tawdry?

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LovesBach Sat 21-Sept-24 08:55:27

'PM will no longer accept donations to buy clothes'. Did anyone ever imagine reading a sub headline of this sort on the BBC News webpage? As a senior barrister, head of the CPS, and then an MP, it is really hard to imagine why the Prime Minister found it necessary to allow a situation like this to arise.

Namsnanny Sat 21-Sept-24 14:27:13

Fancythat terribull RosiesMaw Galaxy and others have made good comments.

I was sorry to read some just threw mud as a way to extracted their party from the hypocrisy

Terribull was correct different snouts same trough

Although I think the bigger question is what will donor L Ali and others want in return?

Also it was revealed a 4 million pound donation to the party was given, which came from a Cayman Islands account which had connections with the arms trade and oil industry.

We are just about to be paying for net zero.
How is that squared?

This is a much bigger problem than who has free clothes.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 14:28:33

Rosie51

LizzieDrip are you saying Starmer hasn't accepted all these freebies, that the media are lying?
As for take us back into the EU, what makes you think its guaranteed all 27 countries would vote yes to having the UK back in? We were refused entry for enough years before finally joining. I wish we'd never left, I voted remain, but appreciate rejoining will not be easy, and likely won't happen in my lifetime.

And just disregard the Brexit referendum because it doesn’t suit (some)? Jeepers. What price democracy eh?

Freya5 Sat 21-Sept-24 14:33:55

GrannySomerset

Though playing devil’s advocate, the willingness of some journalists to attack the appearance and dress sense of female politicians is part of the problem. Perhaps a taxable allowance for the top brass, to be spent on British made clothes, might be a solution? Bet Mme Macron doesn’t have this problem.

No allowance. They take enough. Pay, out of their own pockets for the hire of their posh frocks,or loan then return from British only designers, as other PMs wives have done before them.
Whatever macrons wife does is really no concern, or care of the British people.

Allira Sat 21-Sept-24 14:35:46

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Rosie51

LizzieDrip are you saying Starmer hasn't accepted all these freebies, that the media are lying?
As for take us back into the EU, what makes you think its guaranteed all 27 countries would vote yes to having the UK back in? We were refused entry for enough years before finally joining. I wish we'd never left, I voted remain, but appreciate rejoining will not be easy, and likely won't happen in my lifetime.

And just disregard the Brexit referendum because it doesn’t suit (some)? Jeepers. What price democracy eh?

I think there would have to be another referendum first, FriedGreenTomatoes.

One with more options perhaps.

Jane43 Sat 21-Sept-24 14:38:39

I have supported Labour for all of my adult life but I do find the acceptance of clothing and other gifts by Keir Starmer and other senior cabinet members extremely disappointing and distasteful. In my view donations should only go to the party for activities such as campaigning. I have just listened to Lucy Powell on Question Time saying it is acceptable and I strongly disagree with her.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 14:41:14

Agreed Allira but the last one was so bluddy divisive I don’t think any government will revisit the issue! And those who didn’t vote deserve no recognition of their view point.

Allira Sat 21-Sept-24 14:42:09

Oh yes, don't vote, don't complain!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 14:46:32

😊😊

Allira Sat 21-Sept-24 15:09:46

Mollygo

Well we’ve had Mrs Thatcher, milk snatcher, now we’ve got Kier Starmer, pensioner harmer.

May I just point out that it was Harold Wilson who started snatching milk from the hands of children!

Harold Wilson's Labour government stopped free milk for secondary school pupils in 1968.

It doesn't rhyme though!

TerriBull Sat 21-Sept-24 15:15:02

I'd have been delighted if the milk had been snatched during my school days, I hated it!

eazybee Sat 21-Sept-24 15:18:13

Well, I admit to being fascinated to know what they will all be wearing to the opening of the Labour party conference tomorrow. If Victoria Starmer has any sense she will take a leaf out of Samantha Cameron's book and turn up in M&S dress, as Mrs. C did at their first Tory Conference. The fashion editors will have a field day!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 15:18:49

Me too Terribull! It usually sat in a crate not far from the radiators in my junior school classroom. I used to almost gag sucking it up through a straw. And if there were a couple of class absences the teacher would hold up a couple of bottles (gills? … ha! size, not an absent girl!) and call out “who would like another bottle of milk?”.

Hands would shoot up “me, Sir!”.
Gah.
I used to sit there thinking “how COULD you?” 😁

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 15:21:18

Good point eazybee. Back to Basics ought to be their mantra.
Perhaps KS could wear a hair shirt?
In some ways (bizarre I know) I feel a bit sorry for him really.
It’s all going so wrong, all at once.

Allira Sat 21-Sept-24 15:23:04

TerriBull

I'd have been delighted if the milk had been snatched during my school days, I hated it!

Warm in summer, frozen up out of the bottles in winter!
No fridges in those days.

Allira Sat 21-Sept-24 15:24:35

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Good point eazybee. Back to Basics ought to be their mantra.
Perhaps KS could wear a hair shirt?
In some ways (bizarre I know) I feel a bit sorry for him really.
It’s all going so wrong, all at once.

He's not stupid, he should have known better.

SueDonim Sat 21-Sept-24 15:27:06

I don’t understand why anyone should get free clothes simply to go to work, unless it’s a uniform. The rest of the population has to buy their own work clothes and some people can’t even afford to kit out their children in school uniform.

To me as a woman, the whole idea of having clothes bought for me by another man turns my stomach. It’s creepy. Whatever were the Starmers thinking??

I am so disappointed that it seems we are still an Us and Them society, according to our leaders.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 15:32:51

Especially as say, the Macrons represent France.
We have a royal family!

TerriBull Sat 21-Sept-24 15:33:04

Yes the white stuff ruined my life in junior school, the unpalatable trio of milk, rice pudding and mashed potato, the latter two with lumps the size of planets. Yuk!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 15:33:33

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Sparklefizz Sat 21-Sept-24 15:35:04

Carrie Johnson did the green and sensible thing and rented dresses for political occasions. Why can't Victoria Starmer do the same if they can't afford her clothes?

vegansrock Sat 21-Sept-24 15:36:44

I hope those criticising the Starmers are also Incensed by the Johnsons freebie luxury holidays, gold wallpaper, private jet etc. KS does pay for his own season ticket, but was advised by security to go behind the glass in the directors box. The Mail won’t have mentioned that

Allira Sat 21-Sept-24 15:37:16

TerriBull

Yes the white stuff ruined my life in junior school, the unpalatable trio of milk, rice pudding and mashed potato, the latter two with lumps the size of planets. Yuk!

It wasn't easy being milk monitor infants' school and being blamed for warm or frozen milk and, even worse, bent straws!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 15:42:14

Rachel Reeves has admitted she accepted money for clothes, as the backlash over gifts from donors threatened to overshadow the Labour Party conference this weekend.

The Chancellor has received almost £7,500 for clothing since 2023 from a friend called Juliet Rosenfeld, the widow of a Labour donor caught up in the 2006 cash for honours scandal.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 21-Sept-24 15:49:30

If the election was held again tomorrow I feel the results would be very different.

Sarnia Sat 21-Sept-24 15:55:08

Starmer and his freebies was the discussion at our food bank collection this morning. All of us with different political views, ages and gender but unanimous in our opinion of him. Went on about Boris's wallpaper (which he is currently enjoying) but accepts free glasses, clothes and freebies for himself and his wife. As double standards as the rest of them. We said he should come and help at food bank and see those who deserve a few treats.