Election Promises

I am delighted that Labour is here. I do note that the media is out to get rid of him, and they are being vicious because that is their job and much of the Press do not wish to see anything change in the system that might have any deleterious effects on their mega earnings.

How on earth any of us feel we can judge within 11-12 weeks is totally beyond me. Even more so when we look at how our welfare systems have been systematically and not always systematically dismantled over 14 years. I can see no way that this can be remedied swiftly...although children will now soon get free breakfasts in school! And us pensioners are being encouraged to claim all our benefits that have for so long not been claimed.

Ofsted is being changed and about time too.

The workers that make our systems work are receiving more pay, and employment legislation is being tightened. All those younger and older people on zero hours and contracted work will become more secure. So many younger people on short contracts so they get no employment security.

BRING IT ON LABOUR. THAT IS SO MUCH IN 11 WEEKS.

keepingquiet you have missed the point on education. Under Labour only the very rich are allowed private education. There has been a steady decline in upward social mobility here for some time. It looks to continue. Why?

I really don't think many people understand what a dire situation this country is in, that they thought any new government could come in with a magic wand and make everything better?

Labour told people time and time again that their job was not going to be easy, in fact it would be very difficult to get the country back on its feet. They were lambasted then for not having clear policies. They can't win.

We still have the impact of austerity ( massive cuts to public services) Brexit (lack of investment and trade) Covid (the delays in the NHS) and wars in Ukraine and Middle-east to which we are committed.

What did people really expect?

As for private education- don't get me started. Why shouldn't every child in this country have a good education? When people are struggling to pay bills and put food on the table, there are those who think they could also pay school fees?

I live in a nation of mad people.

So far, I particularly don’t understand Labour’s position on the NHS and private education. Why can clinicians not run the NHS? I think the less political intervention in health care the better.
And for the life of me, I don’t understand how any government could deliberately make private education out of reach for the average middle class family. Did the education secretary really say that private education has to become the preserve of the very rich? Is she completely off her head?

Freya5

Iam64

I’m still pleased my vote contributed to a Labour government
To read grumbles on here you could believe the last fourteen years of Tory misrule had left Labour an easy legacy

At least the Conservatives weren't taking away people's freedoms, banning smoking, shutting pubs early. All to protect the NHS. Perhaps if Streeting looked at the overload of managers they would be able to cut costs. How about charging foreigners up front for using our NHS as they do in most other countries. The Conservatives weren't making enemies of our friends as Lammy is doing. Only on Grans net are the new government in favour. Certainly not out on the streets.

The Conservatives alienated us from the whole of the EU thanks to Brexit (imo). Isn’t that an act of making enemies of our friends?

LizzieDrip

Yes really!

You’re entitled to your opinion Freya, just as I’m entitled to mine. My glasses are very clear thanks

Mine too!

Iam64

I’m still pleased my vote contributed to a Labour government
To read grumbles on here you could believe the last fourteen years of Tory misrule had left Labour an easy legacy

At least the Conservatives weren't taking away people's freedoms, banning smoking, shutting pubs early. All to protect the NHS. Perhaps if Streeting looked at the overload of managers they would be able to cut costs. How about charging foreigners up front for using our NHS as they do in most other countries. The Conservatives weren't making enemies of our friends as Lammy is doing. Only on Grans net are the new government in favour. Certainly not out on the streets.

I see through similar glasses to LizzieDrip
MayBee thanks x

MayBee70

Why is everyone blaming Labour for the state that our prisons are in? I think they handled the riots incredibly well. I’m heartily sick of the way the right wing media are concentrating on every tiny negative thing they can about the party. I will never forget the things that the Conservative Party have subjected this country to over the past 14 years but am under no illusion as to how much work needs to be done to turn this country around. And, all the time, the Conservative Party are still fighting with each other like rats in a sack and many people think the saviours of this country are going to be Farage, Lee Anderson and Ann Widdecombe.

Exactly this, thanks Maybee!

So much opinion formed by the press making much of the peripheral things rather than the actual solid work of government. The ‘sausages’ slip up seems destined to be Keir Starmer’s defining moment for some. 😕

Yes really!

You’re entitled to your opinion Freya, just as I’m entitled to mine. My glasses are very clear thanks

LizzieDrip

I’m really happy I voted Labour! I trust Labour with our public services, which matters to me. No worries about our country under a Labour government from me

Really. Rose coloured glasses comes to mind.
My opinion, mustn't misrepresent, is that they'll be a bloody disaster for the country.

sharon103

I never did like Keir Starmer even when he was in opposition.
All he used to do is sit on the fence and pick pick pick.
There's just something about the bloke I just don't take to.
Even more now.
Excuse my language but even now when he comes on the tv I tell him to p---s off.

He didn’t sit on the fence. He often, in opposition, supported the government if he felt it was in the best interest of the country. He never opposes for the sake of opposing. It’s one of the things I really like about him.

I never did like Keir Starmer even when he was in opposition.
All he used to do is sit on the fence and pick pick pick.
There's just something about the bloke I just don't take to.
Even more now.
Excuse my language but even now when he comes on the tv I tell him to p---s off.

TwiceAsNice

😀 Maybee70 no I don't think I want them to be all bungee jumping! He took some stick for all his antics didn’t he?

He just gave me the best impression on the television. I agree every politician has done stuff people won’t agree with but he got a surprising number of seats but our system doesn't take that into consideration .

We are all entitled to our opinion . Sorry you’re feeling touchy

He did brilliantly didn’t he! Our local Labour Party always worked well with the LibDems prior to the coalition. I’ve always regarded them as the Jiminy Crickets of British politics and did actually campaign for them at the 2019 election because of their stance on Brexit. ( I think the referendum resulted in me suffering from permanent touchiness !)

MayBee70

Why is everyone blaming Labour for the state that our prisons are in? I think they handled the riots incredibly well. I’m heartily sick of the way the right wing media are concentrating on every tiny negative thing they can about the party. I will never forget the things that the Conservative Party have subjected this country to over the past 14 years but am under no illusion as to how much work needs to be done to turn this country around. And, all the time, the Conservative Party are still fighting with each other like rats in a sack and many people think the saviours of this country are going to be Farage, Lee Anderson and Ann Widdecombe.

Makes you cry! I agree.

😀 Maybee70 no I don't think I want them to be all bungee jumping! He took some stick for all his antics didn’t he?

He just gave me the best impression on the television. I agree every politician has done stuff people won’t agree with but he got a surprising number of seats but our system doesn't take that into consideration .

We are all entitled to our opinion . Sorry you’re feeling touchy

TwiceAsNice

In answer to Maybee70 if I’m honest I don’t know. I voted
Liberal Democrat this election because I felt they were the most honest in the television interviews . I have voted Conservative in the past but besides them doing a bad job before the election I was livid about their scheme for “voluntary” work for young people after the terrible time they had during Covid so that was the last straw for me, and I told our local MP so ( my constituency had remained Conservative and in fairness, she is a very good MP)

I guess I’d like a prime minister with some ethics and that’s not Keir Starmer )’(besides the fact he’s so “beige”)

Would you like him to behave more Ed Davey’ish then? Bungee jumping etc? And ( and I’m saying this as someone that, although I’ve always been a Labour voter has always had a fondness for the LibDems: worked a lot with them post referendum) Ed isn’t totally squeaky clean being part of the coalition tuition fees turnaround and involved in the postmaster scandal too. Imo Keir is as close to being a decent MP as you’re likely to get ( but I am biased I know). Thanks for your reply by the way ( I’m a bit touchy at the moment…)

In answer to Maybee70 if I’m honest I don’t know. I voted
Liberal Democrat this election because I felt they were the most honest in the television interviews . I have voted Conservative in the past but besides them doing a bad job before the election I was livid about their scheme for “voluntary” work for young people after the terrible time they had during Covid so that was the last straw for me, and I told our local MP so ( my constituency had remained Conservative and in fairness, she is a very good MP)

I guess I’d like a prime minister with some ethics and that’s not Keir Starmer )’(besides the fact he’s so “beige”)

Our country was threatened with riots and civil breakdown and was dealt with as effectively as it could have been.
Indeed, and the police were highly praised for their bravery and efforts including cancelled leave and rest days etc. When they put in for a pay rise will that be remembered or will the fact it's illegal for them to strike mean once again they can be overlooked?

I voted Labour, remain convinced it was the right vote and obviously it's too early for judgement calls, but I am disappointed with some aspects. Freebies might be legal but I'd hoped Labour would have more integrity and conscience about taking them, especially as they earn very decent salaries with generous expense allowances. The first announcement being withdrawal of the WFA was, in my opinion, a really lousy move. If that is the first waste of money/inappropriate spend/area to be targeted that came to mind then I worry about their priorities. The savings are piddling in a country's budget and could easily have waited a year to take time for a more targeted approach.
It's been reported that the whole doom and gloom pronouncements from day one have had a negative effect on retail, when we need the economy helped by more spending.

Let's hope there will be announcements in the budget that will contribute to a general feeling that we are heading in the right direction. They would certainly have to go some to be worse than we've had for too long.

TwiceAsNice

Funny how he criticised the previous government in a very sanctimonious way whilst doing exactly the same thing, very hypocritical! We haven’t got any money except huge pay rises for public sector workers at the expense of the pensioners because he thought he could get away with it.

I’ve worked all my life and am still working part time at 71 because I can’t make ends meet if I don’t thanks for taking the WFP off me!

I’ve never voted for labour and I never will and before you say anything I never voted for the Conservatives this election either . He earns hundreds of thousands in total each year yet expects to be given things for free. He can afford to buy his clothes even expensive ones many times over

Dare I ask who you would like to see in government?

Millie22

KS is a huge disappointment and as for Victoria Sponge and the clothes fiasco I have no words.

Taking money away from pensioners to heat their homes. He could have reviewed the policy to award it to everyone but many are just managing and don't have a big private pension to fall back on.

I assume you’ve just listened to his speech?

Funny how he criticised the previous government in a very sanctimonious way whilst doing exactly the same thing, very hypocritical! We haven’t got any money except huge pay rises for public sector workers at the expense of the pensioners because he thought he could get away with it.

I’ve worked all my life and am still working part time at 71 because I can’t make ends meet if I don’t thanks for taking the WFP off me!

I’ve never voted for labour and I never will and before you say anything I never voted for the Conservatives this election either . He earns hundreds of thousands in total each year yet expects to be given things for free. He can afford to buy his clothes even expensive ones many times over

KS is a huge disappointment and as for Victoria Sponge and the clothes fiasco I have no words.

Taking money away from pensioners to heat their homes. He could have reviewed the policy to award it to everyone but many are just managing and don't have a big private pension to fall back on.

And still Beth Rigby is banging on about Starmers clothes…( thank goodness Sky cut to Bidens speech because I was getting close to throwing something at the telly!).

May I recommend following the BC I player ongoing report on Starmer's key speech to see what he actually does say on a number of these issues? You can dip in and out of the summary and key points.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c05glg08712t

I except there will be an overall summary at the end, but he addresses issues raised above.